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Rivers of America Re-Imagineered 2017

Discussion in 'Disneyland Resort' started by TP2000, May 5, 2017.

  1. Kira Nerys

    Kira Nerys Well-Known Member

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    Did I just get called out by a Disney YouTuber? Like, they read my post and then defended themselves? Against me? I've hit the big times!
     
  2. TP2000

    TP2000 Well-Known Member Original Poster

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    We look forward to the only real way for you to respond; by vlogging back.
     
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  3. Stevek

    Stevek Well-Known Member

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    Yep. And these plus Space Mountain. I would love to have more but wall space is at a premium.
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  4. mickEblu

    mickEblu Well-Known Member

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    Hey you're also a Disneyland YouTuber and celebrity now. Don't sell yourself short.
     
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  5. Curious Constance

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    Yeah, before you know it, he'll be calling you out and you'll be forced to defend yourself against him.
     
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  6. Curious Constance

    Curious Constance Well-Known Member

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    upload_2017-7-4_9-46-53.jpeg

    (Per Disneygeek, he said the notes said to leave the wood chips by the beavers.)
     
  7. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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  8. FerretAfros

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    Like much of TL98, they're a poor man's version of a concept from Discoveryland at Disneyland Paris that was twisted, cut, and contorted to the point that they never made any sense in the final installation in Anaheim.

    The original backstory of Discoveryland was tied to it being on top of a volcano, which was integral to the original Discovery Mountain concept, where an Intamin Freefall ride would have dropped guests into an active volcano, among other attractions within the single structure. The rocks themselves are similar to basalt columns often found in volcanic areas, created by the rapid cooling of lava into crystal-like shapes
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    (Side note: similar rock formations have been seen along the north bank of Rivers of America, though I don't think they're accurate to the geology of the American frontier. Our favorite ladyblogger captured them around 5:10 in this video:
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    The rocks at DLP's Discoveryland work as a visual transition from the expansive park-like hub, drawing your eyes to the Visionarium building (now Buzz) and Space Mountain beyond. As a way to move from a flat open space to one that's dominated by buildings, they're very effective at blending what could be a harsh connection, while maintaining long sightlines. And because of the park's overall scale, there's plenty of room for wide walkways in addition to the rocks
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    Additionally, the rocks are surrounded by pools of water, with various levels cascading into one another (similar to DLP's castle moat). Water begins trickling out near the tops of the rocks, and continues through the various pools below
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    When the park opened, there were even smoke and fire effects on the water, further reinforcing the volcanic concept. These effects were lost over time, but were recently recalled with fiery lighting at night. Here's a nifty gif showing the original effects in action
    https://twitter.com/CafeFantasia/status/563820079172059139

    These rocks are a unifying motif throughout the land, including surrounding the Orbitron, helping to define the queue space within the large plaza. Throughout the land, most of the planters repeat that style
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    By the time Space Mountain was built in 1995, the scope of the project was vastly reduced, leaving just the rollercoaster and ditching all direct volcanic references. The structure was still surrounded by angled volcanic rocks, as though it were thrust up through the earth's surface. The adjacent pond is home to the Nautilus (which visited a volcano in the novel) and uses similar terraced waterfalls to those at the land's entrance.
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    Which then brings us to Disneyland's Tomorrowland entrance, where the rocks are plopped down into a narrow walkway for no apparent reason, where there's no need for a large transition due to the smaller scale of the hub and buildings, and there are no similar rocks elsewhere in the land to reinforce the concept
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    If you know where they found their inspiration for the TL98 redo, it kind of makes sense. But with what actually got built, they really don't make any sense at all.
     
  9. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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    Discoveryland is one of the coolest concepts Disney Parks has ever executed. I wish DLP management would stop fiddling with their Space Mountain's story line
     
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  10. britain

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    Word is that after Hyperspace, it will return to its former Jules Verne / Earth to the Moon glory.
     
  11. GiveMeTheMusic

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    Fixed that for you
     
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  12. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

    Dr. Hans Reinhardt Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Wasn't it the previous management that initiated the changes? DLP has only been fully controlled by the WDCo for what, a month maybe?
     
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  13. GiveMeTheMusic

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    Yes, but Disney started asserting more influence in preparations for the 25th, hence DLRP jumping onto hideous ideas like Hyperspace Mountain. It's not like someone challenged them for control - they basically controlled Euro Disney SCA to begin with. Only now, it's official.

    My favorite part of Disney's strategy to take over DLRP completely was letting the resort rot for 10+ years. Guests first, that's the Disney way!
     
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    I know, but I'm not talking.
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  15. Antaundra

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    the concept art for the Atlantis submarine ride features a large volcano. We're these rocks and that volcano the basis for a unifying Tomorrowland story that never came to fruition?
     
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  17. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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    I'm sure you've heard of Mount Lassen, Mount Shasta, Mount St. Helens, and Mount Rainier, all volcanoes on the west coast, two of which are in California. Also don't forget the Yellowstone caldera, the so-called "super volcano" in Yellowstone National Park.
     
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  18. 180º

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    They're actually accurate, and a rather nice touch! As just one example, here's the Devil's Postpile in Mammoth, CA.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Postpile_National_Monument
     
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  19. Ismael Flores

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    Hopefully more landscaping besides trees are coming to help hide the large flow of guests from the river.
    Would be also cool if they had dyed the concrete to look like soil. Maybe they will go back and stain it so it doesn't stand out so much.

    It's all looking great
     
  20. Ismael Flores

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    Although the largest collection of pillar volcanic rocks or Basalt columns are found in Ireland these Basalt columns are also found on the Columbia river in Washington. They are actually quite a few areas throughout the Country where you can find traces of these kind of rock formation just not in large groups as the ones in Ireland

    Also as a side note these same rocks are also found in another area of the resort. They are quite a few of them around the grizzley rapids waterfall right behind the queue


    Sorry just noticed other people had mentioned the rock formations as well. I actually had Seen a couple other sites that kept referring to them as alien rock formation as part of the transition for Star Wars in their updates. Having traveled quite a bit it was a bit frustrating to read that
     
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