RIP Robin Williams

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Sadly, probably not. Depression blinds the victim to reality and eats away at one's perceptions of self-worth. But as I said in a previous post, I hope we all remember to tell those special people in our lives just how much they mean to us.
He's always battled with it, and it hasn't been a great secret for quite a few years...

But, in my opinion it was going through his second divorce that broke him.

If you haven't read his daughters statement, it's quite touching.

Such a sad event...such a loss...
 

NMBC1993

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Stick with it. You are not your job or your bank account - you are defined by how you treat others and how you treat yourself. Look at Robin Williams - how do we remember him? Not by all the money he made or all the money he lost, but by how he made us laugh and feel better, it's a shame he couldn't be better to himself. I wish you all the best with your struggles and hope you can look at yourself through different lights.

I thank you very much, it really does mean a lot to me. Those kind words do keep someone like me looking up. It's very true what @Nemo14 said, depression eats away at one's perceptions of self-worth. I can definitely attest to that. Of course it doesn't help that your hearing it from a family member everyday. When someone tells you that your immature and abnormal, there comes a day when you start to believe it. In my father's eyes I should be the quarterback of the football team, graduating with a master's degree, and becoming a commander in the Navy. This is the path he envisioned for me before I was even born.

So you can imagine his disappointment when he got a son who loved to take his new camera around Epcot Center to take pictures, spend the afternoon building small Lego sets by the fountain at Dixie Landings, and loved anything to do with animation. If being me was wrong, and I was the problem, than why was I here? Meanwhile I had a mother who loved me very much, to her I was everything (which most mothers feel the same:)) but she wasn't fond of her life on Earth, hated that she was still here, that hopefully soon "God will take her away from here so she doesn't have to deal with this". So one parent wishes I didn't exist, the other wishes she didn't. It does tend to put a damper on your outlook on life. Because of all this, I started doubting myself. When looking to move forward in a career for example I would think "Why would they want me, when someone else would be better"? It caused me to question everything about myself, even trying to answer someone's question was difficult in fear they would judge me for what I chose. But anyway, things are looking up and I've been able to solve a lot of problems. A big thanks goes out to everyone on these forums! All of you showed me being a fan of Disney is as normal as a slice of apple pie from Aunt Polly's (Whoops too soon!)

Finally I want to ask a favor to all the parents out there. Let your children be who they are. Let them enjoy childhood to the fullest, as long as their not hurting anyone. Because it's a rough world out there, and it's not looking any better in my opinion. Let them enjoy the freedom of discovering new things, and being a kid. It's their lives after all!

Anyway, I'm sorry to delve so far off-topic from Robin Williams, I just felt this was a good time to put that out there to the world, since you usually can't start a conversation with "So yeah, death sounds good"... If anyone hasn't seen this article yet (or someone's already posted it) I came across this story last night. It was a very interesting look at someone's encounter with Williams.

I hope you enjoy!
http://archive.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/13948075?odyssey=mod_sectionstories
 
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bethymouse

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@lebeau So sorry to hear about your brother. It is definitely a disorder, and all mental disorders should be taken more seriously in the world of medicine. It's time to realize that our brains are a complex part of our bodies, and that manic/depression ( bipolar) as well as other disorders should truly be recognized as a serious health issue.:(
 

Nemo14

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Original Poster
I thank you very much, it really does mean a lot to me. Those kind words do keep someone like me looking up. It's very true what @Nemo14 said, depression eats away at one's perceptions of self-worth. I can definitely attest to that. Of course it doesn't help that your hearing it from a family member everyday. When someone tells you that your immature and abnormal, there comes a day when you start to believe it. In my father's eyes I should be the quarterback of the football team, graduating with a master's degree, and becoming a commander in the Navy. This is the path he envisioned for me before I was even born.

So you can imagine his disappointment when he got a son who loved to take his new camera around Epcot Center to take pictures, spend the afternoon building small Lego sets by the fountain at Dixie Landings, and loved anything to do with animation. If being me was wrong, and I was the problem, than why was I here? Meanwhile I had a mother who loved me very much, to her I was everything (which most mothers feel the same:)) but she wasn't fond of her life on Earth, hated that she was still here, that hopefully soon "God will take her away from here so she doesn't have to deal with this". So one parent wishes I didn't exist, the other wishes she didn't. It does tend to put a damper on your outlook on life. Because of all this, I started doubting myself. When looking to move forward in a career for example I would think "Why would they want me, when someone else would be better"? It caused me to question everything about myself, even trying to answer someone's question was difficult in fear they would judge me for what I chose. But anyway, things are looking up and I've been able to solve a lot of problems. A big thanks goes out to everyone on these forums! All of you showed me being a fan of Disney is as normal as a slice of apple pie from Aunt Polly's (Whoops too soon!)

Finally I want to ask a favor to all the parents out there. Let your children be who they are. Let them enjoy childhood to the fullest, as long as their not hurting anyone. Because it's a rough world out there, and it's not looking any better in my opinion. Let them enjoy the freedom of discovering new things, and being a kid. It's their lives after all!

Anyway, I'm sorry to delve so far off-topic from Robin Williams, I just felt this was a good time to put that out there to the world, since you usually can't start a conversation with "So yeah, death sounds good"... If anyone hasn't seen this article yet (or someone's already posted it) I came across this story last night. It was a very interesting look at someone's encounter with Williams.

I hope you enjoy!
http://archive.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/13948075?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

((Hugs))
 

Nemo14

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I thank you very much, it really does mean a lot to me. Those kind words do keep someone like me looking up. It's very true what @Nemo14 said, depression eats away at one's perceptions of self-worth. I can definitely attest to that. Of course it doesn't help that your hearing it from a family member everyday. When someone tells you that your immature and abnormal, there comes a day when you start to believe it. In my father's eyes I should be the quarterback of the football team, graduating with a master's degree, and becoming a commander in the Navy. This is the path he envisioned for me before I was even born.

So you can imagine his disappointment when he got a son who loved to take his new camera around Epcot Center to take pictures, spend the afternoon building small Lego sets by the fountain at Dixie Landings, and loved anything to do with animation. If being me was wrong, and I was the problem, than why was I here? Meanwhile I had a mother who loved me very much, to her I was everything (which most mothers feel the same:)) but she wasn't fond of her life on Earth, hated that she was still here, that hopefully soon "God will take her away from here so she doesn't have to deal with this". So one parent wishes I didn't exist, the other wishes she didn't. It does tend to put a damper on your outlook on life. Because of all this, I started doubting myself. When looking to move forward in a career for example I would think "Why would they want me, when someone else would be better"? It caused me to question everything about myself, even trying to answer someone's question was difficult in fear they would judge me for what I chose. But anyway, things are looking up and I've been able to solve a lot of problems. A big thanks goes out to everyone on these forums! All of you showed me being a fan of Disney is as normal as a slice of apple pie from Aunt Polly's (Whoops too soon!)

Finally I want to ask a favor to all the parents out there. Let your children be who they are. Let them enjoy childhood to the fullest, as long as their not hurting anyone. Because it's a rough world out there, and it's not looking any better in my opinion. Let them enjoy the freedom of discovering new things, and being a kid. It's their lives after all!

Anyway, I'm sorry to delve so far off-topic from Robin Williams, I just felt this was a good time to put that out there to the world, since you usually can't start a conversation with "So yeah, death sounds good"... If anyone hasn't seen this article yet (or someone's already posted it) I came across this story last night. It was a very interesting look at someone's encounter with Williams.

I hope you enjoy!
http://archive.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/13948075?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

I couldn't let this just slip by without adding that I sincerely hope that you are working with professionals and not trying to handle this all by yourself. It's great to be able to talk to anonymous people on the internet, but it sounds like you need to work this out with someone who is trained to deal with issues like this. Please seek out the help you need if you haven't done that already. Your life is well worth it!
 

NMBC1993

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I couldn't let this just slip by without adding that I sincerely hope that you are working with professionals and not trying to handle this all by yourself. It's great to be able to talk to anonymous people on the internet, but it sounds like you need to work this out with someone who is trained to deal with issues like this. Please seek out the help you need if you haven't done that already. Your life is well worth it!

Thank you for your words of advise. Thankfully I have started taking steps with professionals, what really helped was being diagnosed with ADHD this year. I had no idea there was a reason why I had the emotional capacity of a thimble, why I did some of the things I do. My condition caused me to over-analyze things a lot, put thoughts into my head that were not true. All those question were answered when a specialist told me "Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you have ADHD". I didn't believe it at first, but he started asking me questions and my answer was always yes. This caused me to fix a lot of things about myself that I was doing wrong. You know the usual horrible college diet, not enough sleep, etc. Also it helps that I'm out of that soul sucking job. That's what I believe really sent me over the hill of hating life. I can see where Robin was coming from, dealing with the fact that he had to do certain things to keep a living. I've got a proper job now, something that I wanted to do in life, not what was required of me.

Lol, I know it's not quite the same talking to strangers, but seriously these forums have been more of an extended family than I've ever had. It's great to be part of an O'hana:D
 

acishere

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Marc Maron reposted his interview with Robin Williams from a few years ago for his podcast. Williams is very subdued and soft spoken throughout, yet he is still going a mile a minute as he talks. He spends a lot of time discussing his struggles with addiction, depression, and it ends on Robin discussing dealing with the one time he claims he ever thought of suicide. It is heartbreaking to listen to in hindsight and many here may find the language very offensive, but it is a truly interesting look into the man's head.

Another warning if you choose to search Google for the interview: it is an hour long, so it is a bit of a time commitment.
 

Nemo14

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Original Poster
Thank you for your words of advise. Thankfully I have started taking steps with professionals, what really helped was being diagnosed with ADHD this year. I had no idea there was a reason why I had the emotional capacity of a thimble, why I did some of the things I do. My condition caused me to over-analyze things a lot, put thoughts into my head that were not true. All those question were answered when a specialist told me "Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you have ADHD". I didn't believe it at first, but he started asking me questions and my answer was always yes. This caused me to fix a lot of things about myself that I was doing wrong. You know the usual horrible college diet, not enough sleep, etc. Also it helps that I'm out of that soul sucking job. That's what I believe really sent me over the hill of hating life. I can see where Robin was coming from, dealing with the fact that he had to do certain things to keep a living. I've got a proper job now, something that I wanted to do in life, not what was required of me.

Lol, I know it's not quite the same talking to strangers, but seriously these forums have been more of an extended family than I've ever had. It's great to be part of an O'hana:D

I understand the extended family thing, really. I think most of us have come here at one time or another simply for a "lift", and there's nothing wrong with that. But if your problems are indeed medically related (which ADHD certainly is), there are many things they can do to help you cope. I'm not a huge advocate of medication but I can tell you that as a former teacher I have seen huge improvements in people once the proper meds were followed. There are clinics you can work with if cost is a problem, but please take care of yourself. You seem to have such a gentle soul, and that is an amazing gift.
 

NMBC1993

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I understand the extended family thing, really. I think most of us have come here at one time or another simply for a "lift", and there's nothing wrong with that. But if your problems are indeed medically related (which ADHD certainly is), there are many things they can do to help you cope. I'm not a huge advocate of medication but I can tell you that as a former teacher I have seen huge improvements in people once the proper meds were followed. There are clinics you can work with if cost is a problem, but please take care of yourself. You seem to have such a gentle soul, and that is an amazing gift.

I understand where your coming from, I have looked into all those options myself. Unfortunately, I'm also not a fan of medication, it is a benefit for a lot of things but I just don't trust medications. One time I went to the doctor for medication to treat my bronchitis and he kept insisting I has asthma, I felt like the hospital was trying to have a poll on who could sale the most inhalers. The good news is I've managed to live my life this far without knowing I had ADHD, now that I do know about my condition I've been able to use treatments and the required diets to balance everything out. Am I happy that I have to cut out Dole Whips now because of the dairy? no. But I think my problem was I was judging myself on the pretense of a man who probably himself suffers from ADHD, from the symptoms I've seen. Why should I let his insane logic affect how I live my life? The same man who once told me "Look, you need to stop playing those video games, because once you get to college no one does that". My problem was being strung along from the unnecessary guilt of a parent and let it affect my life....no pill could have helped with that.

Like I said, I believe I'm on the right track. It's not so much that I worry about myself anymore, I worry more about the rest of the world. Seeing what we maybe facing and the times to come. Thanks to my friends and the loved ones around me, I've realized I am important to someone, and in the words of Wreck-It Ralph...

"Cause if that little kid likes me, how bad can I be"?
 
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Nemo14

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I understand where your coming from, I have looked into all those options myself. Unfortunately, I'm also not a fan of medication, it is a benefit for a lot of things but I just don't trust medications. One time I went to the doctor for medication to treat my bronchitis and he kept insisting I has asthma, I felt like the hospital was trying to have a poll on who could sale the most inhalers. The good news is I've managed to live my live this far without knowing I had ADHD, now that I do know about my condition I've been able to use treatments and the required diets to balance everything out. Am I happy that I have to cut out Dole Whips now because of the dairy? no. But I think my problem was I was judging myself on the pretense of a man who probably himself suffers from ADHD, from the symptoms I've seen. Why should I let his insane logic affect how I live my life? The same man who once told me "Look, you need to stop playing those video games, because once you get to college no one does that". My problem was being strung along from the unnecessary guilt of a parent and let it affect my life....no pill could have helped with that.

Like I said, I believe I'm on the right track. It's not so much that I worry about myself anymore, I worry more about the rest of the world. Seeing what we maybe facing and the times to come. Thanks to my friends and the loved ones around me, I've realized I am important to someone, and in the words of Wreck-It Ralph...

"Cause if that little kid likes me, how bad can I be"?
I like you too...;)
 

Ariel484

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Listening to the Animation courtyard music right now and Robin is doing his bit....This is rough. I've never really been hit by a celebrity's death until now. Growing up watching this guy it just feels like a favorite uncle that has passed.
I feel exactly the same way...many of his movies were big parts of my childhood. It was like a punch in the gut to read the news. So very sad. :(

I'm with everyone else that hopes that some good can come out of this - hopefully it will lead to more dialogue about and better understanding of depression (and mental illness as a whole).
 

StarWarsGirl

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Almost 10 years ago, I lost my youngest brother to depression. He was only 22 when he took his own life. Obviously, news of Williams' suicide reminds me of that experience. But I have seen a lot of people who clearly don't understand what clinical depression is. So last night, I put together my thoughts and experiences on the disease, how it is misunderstood and the consequences of ignoring what is essentially a chemical disorder in the brain.

If nothing else comes of Williams' death, I hope it educates people on the nature of depression. Maybe then, some tragedies can be prevented.

http://lebeauleblog.com/2014/08/12/personal-musings-depression-and-the-death-of-robin-williams/
Thanks for sharing that. I'm glad you were willing to open that and share with us. I definitely agree that it's a disorder, but not the kind you can just treat by pumping drugs into a person. From what I learned in that psychology class I took last semester (not that this makes me an expert of course, it was after all) antidepressants should be used sparingly and with a combination of therapy. They will stop working otherwise. I enjoyed reading that (well, as much as anyone enjoys reading about this topic) and thank you for sharing that.
 

Princess Sara

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This was one of my favorites. And while they modified the story a lot to make it more "appealing", I blame producers for that.

I am a MAJOR Asimov fan, and this is one of my favorite short stories he ever wrote. Hands down in the top 10 short stories for me.

And, I enjoyed it. And, much of that was due to Robin.

I love this movie too it's my favourite x
 

StarWarsGirl

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I understand where your coming from, I have looked into all those options myself. Unfortunately, I'm also not a fan of medication, it is a benefit for a lot of things but I just don't trust medications. One time I went to the doctor for medication to treat my bronchitis and he kept insisting I has asthma, I felt like the hospital was trying to have a poll on who could sale the most inhalers. The good news is I've managed to live my life this far without knowing I had ADHD, now that I do know about my condition I've been able to use treatments and the required diets to balance everything out. Am I happy that I have to cut out Dole Whips now because of the dairy? no. But I think my problem was I was judging myself on the pretense of a man who probably himself suffers from ADHD, from the symptoms I've seen. Why should I let his insane logic affect how I live my life? The same man who once told me "Look, you need to stop playing those video games, because once you get to college no one does that". My problem was being strung along from the unnecessary guilt of a parent and let it affect my life....no pill could have helped with that.

Like I said, I believe I'm on the right track. It's not so much that I worry about myself anymore, I worry more about the rest of the world. Seeing what we maybe facing and the times to come. Thanks to my friends and the loved ones around me, I've realized I am important to someone, and in the words of Wreck-It Ralph...

"Cause if that little kid likes me, how bad can I be"?
Off topic, but Dole Whips are dairy free and inhalers are a pretty standard bronchitis treatment regardless of whether or not you have asthma. However, it is important to make sure you are getting proper treatment. Sorry to hear about your troubles, though.
 

Goofyernmost

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Almost 10 years ago, I lost my youngest brother to depression. He was only 22 when he took his own life. Obviously, news of Williams' suicide reminds me of that experience. But I have seen a lot of people who clearly don't understand what clinical depression is. So last night, I put together my thoughts and experiences on the disease, how it is misunderstood and the consequences of ignoring what is essentially a chemical disorder in the brain.

If nothing else comes of Williams' death, I hope it educates people on the nature of depression. Maybe then, some tragedies can be prevented.

http://lebeauleblog.com/2014/08/12/personal-musings-depression-and-the-death-of-robin-williams/
Beautifully written my friend. It's too bad it has to be about such an awful subject that has caused so much pain to so many people. I, joke about my X, that's how I cope with it and I also know that she has no way of knowing what I am saying. I say it because I know just how devastating that disease can be. I haven't lived with the disease, but did spend 29 years of my life with someone suffering from it. I went through periods of understanding, then anger, back to understanding and eventually to just giving up. I knew that there was nothing I could do or say that would "fix" the situation.

She never killed herself to this point (she's 74 years old now), but threatened to a number of times. She also spent a very large part of her life hiding it or attempting to hide it from our children. She was so good at it that when she was no longer able to control her emotions, the kids (grownup by then) could feel nothing but anger and saw it as a flaw in personality brought on by weakness.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Almost 10 years ago, I lost my youngest brother to depression. He was only 22 when he took his own life. Obviously, news of Williams' suicide reminds me of that experience. But I have seen a lot of people who clearly don't understand what clinical depression is. So last night, I put together my thoughts and experiences on the disease, how it is misunderstood and the consequences of ignoring what is essentially a chemical disorder in the brain.

If nothing else comes of Williams' death, I hope it educates people on the nature of depression. Maybe then, some tragedies can be prevented.

http://lebeauleblog.com/2014/08/12/personal-musings-depression-and-the-death-of-robin-williams/

Thank you for sharing your heartfelt thoughts, regarding your brother's experience with depression. I am sorry for your loss. Your comments will certainly be helpful to all who read them. I found your insight thought-provoking, as well as educational. Take care, and kindest regards.
 

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