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New Gondola Transportation

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by danlb_2000, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. TiggerDad

    TiggerDad Well-Known Member

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    There are multiple buildings being constructed in CBR in these permits. I thin you are referring to the elbow building in the NW section. There's a much larger building in the previously undeveloped SW section which presumably would be the CBR station.
     
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    Also you can definetely have a load point in the middle of the system. There are several examples of this around the world
     
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    monothingie I WANT THAT MULAN MCNUGGETS SAUCE MORTY! Premium Member

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    The plans show the scope of work involves only Martinique and Barbados. Beyond that is purely speculation.
     
  5. TiggerDad

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    Good thing this whole thread is in the rumors section of the forum.
     
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    monothingie I WANT THAT MULAN MCNUGGETS SAUCE MORTY! Premium Member

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    Most areal systems are of the hub and spoke configurations. While you are correct there are examples of system which permit loading in the middle, because of the nature of such systems it tends to be inefficient leading to long waits escpecially if the system is busy. As for the building being built on the expansion pad it may serve the CBR, but given the size of the resort, it may problematic with guests being able to easily access it.
     
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    monothingie I WANT THAT MULAN MCNUGGETS SAUCE MORTY! Premium Member

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    A bus driver told me once that Speculation is not a Rummor.
     
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    Very true, the placement is suspect, but the size of the structure near DHS is enormous. Look at it compared to the monorail station at Epcot.

    That is a very substantial structure for gondola loading/unloading.
     
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    Is there a reason gondolas are the assumed guess? It seems widely unrealistic for a variety of reasons, but I guess you never know.
     
  10. MichWolv

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    Kudos on the Laugh In reference. Although it was sometimes followed by "...but stupid."
     
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    Those plans are not blueprints or siteplans for the entire project. They only show what is relevant related to the modifications to the watershed. Don't assume that Aruba and Jamaica will remain the same just because they were not on those plans.
     
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    I think its because of the shape of the buildings, specific orientation of the buildings, and putting pieces together that have led to the speculation of a Gondola.
     
  13. TiggerDad

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    we went through a lot of options over the past two days on the DHS Permits thread before arriving at this one.
     
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    It would not decrease efficiency if the system uses detachable gondolas as it almost certainly would.
     
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    Will the final plans for CBR include an increase in total resort capacity? I think it's obvious to everyone that WDW needs more hotel rooms and specifically more on the affordable side. It looks like in the plans so far they remove a bunch of existing rooms and replace with a taller building, possibly DVC related. If it's DVC that would be reducing the number of hotel rooms instead of increasing. If they replaced the rest of the resort rooms with similar taller buildings they could also increase hotel room capacity. The only issue would be having too many rooms in one place causing a transportation issue. Maybe this "system" solves some of the problem and with SW Land and possibly new additions to EPCOT shortly after it would directly connect to parks in high demand.
     
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    Permits with site plans filed so far do not show any impact to those areas. Unless you are holding back on some insider knowledge your assessment is pure speculation. Just the same way I can say those are impact areas are going to be footers for monorail expansion.
     
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    What makes you think that newly built rooms with an aerial link to two resorts would fall into the "affordable" category?
     
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    Those permits you are referring to are not site plans and do not even show everything even within the areas covered. They are permits with SFWMD and represent modifications to the watershed only. They do not and are not meant to show everything that will be constructed or demolished in the area.
     
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    Detachable Gondolas are standard fare. The tricky part is inserting and removing people in the middle. If my destination is at the middle stop but it isnt for others in the car we all must now stop at that point. Further I have a party of X waiting to board. There is no easy way to know which approaching car would have the capacity for my party. Hence the reason why most systems are Hub and spoke with no intermediary stop. It is simply easier and more efficient to implement.
     
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    The attached schematic shows modifications being made. They are also quite clear to show additional structures being added throughout the resort. There is nothing being added to the section in question. Even though presumably given the land type it would have an impact on soil and water management. Again if you know something, and you're comfortable to release it please feel free to share it. PM me if you want to tell me if you can or can not.
     

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