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New Gondola Transportation

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by danlb_2000, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. Goob

    Goob Well-Known Member

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    I would never rent a car if I was staying off property. Uber all the way. No parking fees either.
     
  2. Kman101

    Kman101 Premium Member

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    I live close enough to drive for the day but I've started making it into little trips so I have my own car which is nice but not everyone will of course. The Disney Springs hotels all offer shuttles and it's super close to the Springs. I have an AP so no parking fee at the parks but the hotel now charges for parking but it's not awful. But I avoid renting cars when I travel too if I can. I've yet to use Uber lol.
     
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  3. DisneyDreamer08

    DisneyDreamer08 Well-Known Member

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    Not always possible when you have little kids who ride in car seats :)
    But believe me, we will definitely be looking into all off site options for the first time ever when our next trip rolls around in a few years. So I appreciate all the suggestions!
     
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  4. Kristamouse

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    Do share, we love off property and are in need of a place to stay in May:)
     
  5. flynnibus

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    $100+/night is pretty normal for any major chain hotel virtually all around the country these days. The $60/n holiday inn isn't a thing anymore... that's RedRoof Inn/motel ranges. I regularlly have to pay $100-$140 for a hotel as I travel around.. even in 'no where special' land.
     
  6. ford91exploder

    ford91exploder Resident Curmudgeon

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    Ah Baghdad Bob, He deserved better than what he got, Many of us think he should have gotten a late night show doing the opposite of the news...
     
  7. Goob

    Goob Well-Known Member

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    The Hilton Lake Buena Vista would be my first pick. It's the closest to Disney Springs and it just got a refurb when we were there for NYE this year. It's now all up to date and looks fantastic.
     
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  8. Kman101

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    No, I do get that.

    To be fair to me and give some context, I last paid to stay on property waay back in 2006-2008, when a moderate was the price Pop is now, and then I traveled to California in 2008, cruises in 2009 and 2010, and with very discounted rooms thanks to a friend who's father works for a luxury hotel chain I stayed in Miami a few times for very very cheap. After that I didn't do much traveling. A night here and there. Obviously I'm aware in 10 years prices are going up up up but I hadn't really seriously looked at booking anywhere until this last year or so and this year so I still had the 10 years ago price ranges in my head. Again, I know they've gone up but it's accepting that reality ... and if I can stay cheaper elsewhere, I will, but not 50-80. I don't expect that. 100-140 is reasonable.

    Anyway just explaining why I was a bit surprised at the pricing. In my head I know they've gone up but seeing it ... and not saying that's horrible pricing ...
     
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  9. *Q*

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    No, just probed.
     
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  10. G00fyDad

    G00fyDad Well-Known Member

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    For the first time (during my trips as a parent) I looked into the cost of staying off property. I had halfway looked into it before and it appeared that it would break even after parking and separate tickets. After really getting into it and looking I found an $800 difference. So we decided that we'd stay off property on our next trip.

    8 day and 7 night trip:
    Standard room at All-Stars Music Package:
    $2816

    Standard Room at cheaper offsite hotel (incl tickets and parking):
    $2008
     
  11. dmw

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    Has anyone researched how much longer does it take to get from an off site hotel to the ticket gate, compared to using WDW transit when staying on-site? I read a blog recently where a person with an AP was evaluating the new security at MK and I think his time from car getting into WDW property (driving under the Welcome signs) to the ticket gate at MK was something like two hours. That did not include the time to get from a specific location outside of WDW to the Welcome signs (the blogger was a local).

    To me, time has a value. I don't know exactly how much of a price difference would convince me to pay more on-site, but it definitely would be something to consider.

    Of course, if you are using your car inside WDW, then the comparison is probably not of any value.
     
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  12. G00fyDad

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    I'm sure someone here has made that comparison. :)

    We rent a vehicle every time we go because we cannot stand certain things about Disney transportation (Except the boats. The boats are WONDERFUL.) and we can get anywhere on property faster than taking Disney transportation. The (4 star) hotel I looked at off-site was out past Disney Springs and it would take us 19 minutes (using Bing Directions) to get to AK on the other side of the property. That is just fine with us because we couldn't get from DHS to Pop Century in that amount of time taking Disney Transportation.
     
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    We do this every trip before we go, and after parking, hidden fees at offsite hotels, the total has always been within $20 a night for a value. So it comes down to is it worth that for the extra 30 days to make FP+, direct drop off at MK, and the others perks of staying on property.

    But once the Gondola's are open, the fact you can get to two parks from POP without buses (which already has the best bus transportation on property) the desire to stay for our group goes up, not sure it will match the prices though.
     
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    I came across this interesting article while googling about gondola systems used for public transportation. While I doubt Disney will use a system like this (because from what I can tell it is very expensive and one of the more complex systems) it would greatly enhance capacity. The article from the Orlando Sentinel quoted 10 passengers per vehicle so with a platform of this style and three different lines (to EPCOT, DHS and AoA/POP from CBR Transfer Station) capacity adds up quick! Like I said I doubt they will use this but for those of you worrying about capacity issues I think there are plenty of solutions Disney could implement immediately or in the future with this system.
    System of Two Gondola Platforms.PNG
    Here is a second capacity increasing station design with two levels. System of Two Story Gondola Platforms.PNG
     
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  16. matt9112

    matt9112 Well-Known Member

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    And the rest of us want discounts because we have to hear the cheer groups :) :)
     
  17. draybook

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    I hear ya! We stayed to ourselves or with one other family during those trips. Most cheer moms are out of control. I took the elevator down to the lobby one night and this one girl's mom was drunk and called her a b----, her own daughter. And at that same Best Western, a couple girls from our gym were throwing ice from their balcony so I notified security and they handled it. That stuff could seriously injure someone or damage a car from that high. It was embarrassing.
     
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  18. G00fyDad

    G00fyDad Well-Known Member

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    That $800+ difference included parking. If I did not include parking it would have been a $1000+ difference. :D
     
  19. creathir

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    Oh absolutely.
    Generally speaking, most vacations do though.
    I've wondered if they would do something like this for wheelchairs and ECVs.

    A separate loop which could potentially even have a gondola stop on it, to allow for easier loading and unloading.
     
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  20. danlb_2000

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