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Monorail_Red_77

Well-Known Member
Those aren't the only options. It's a total bus system with hundreds of busses operating in a complete system across all destinations, not independent distinct systems for each route. They can, and already do, all throughout the day change what route a bus is on all the time. It's easy to see anytime a trip from a resort to a park drops you off at a stop that isn't for the resort you came from. That bus just changed to a different loop.

Viewed in isolation of just these resorts, if every bus loop was dedicated. They would need to reserve mostly useless extra busses in case it shuts down. With enough capacity for some basic, probably poor, level of wait time. But, this is the wrong view.

Viewed as a total integrated system, busses are pulled off other loops and redirected. This increases the wait time on those loops that have less busses now. However, the goal would likely be to make that increase small by spreading it around as much as possible. Creating service to replace the missing item, at some basic acceptable wait time.

Adding the new gondola service and eliminating the bus service loops it replaces also done't actually mean they have to eliminate actual busses. It could be that all those actual busses and current drivers are redeployed someplace else in the overall system. Providing better service for the rest of the overall bus system. It could mean not expanding the bus system with additional capacity. This is sort of like eliminating actual busses, by this system meaning they don't need to buy more busses to increase capacity throughout the system. Kind of a "was going to buy more busses next year but don't have to now, so it's a reduction". It's a little twisted logic. It could also mean that they take busses off the road completely, but it's definitely not the only option.

They already do this all day long as capacity needs between different destinations changes throughout the day. In this way, the bus system is actually much more flexible for dealing with capacity changes throughout the day. It's that the actual bus service experience vs a continuous operation system is so much worse. Made worse by the actual road infrastructure those busses rely on being worse and subject to congestion. Part of the capacity changes throughout the day can be traced back to not just the number of people needing a route but also the time a route takes. That's another huge advantage of the gondola system, it's transit times should be significantly more consistent.

Speaking of bus changes. I have also been to EPCOT on those crazy busy nights where they have had to bring in plain white unmarked Mears Transport buses to help with the bus congestion when leaving at closing. I have a pic somewhere in my archives showing this. Only markings on the bus was the usual small black lettering near the front door showing operation info. Kinda weird to see a few of these buses show up in the sea of Disney Transport buses.
 

raymusiccity

Well-Known Member
FWiW, IG's station will share the look of IG, no major archetectural changes there. AoA and the CBR/ Transfer stops will be a bit more bland, but still with decor. HS and DVC should be nice. The stations will all blend in for the most part. Some will just have more effort put in then others.

There's always 'Plan B'. Monorail expansion should be shovel ready by now!

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nineballtimmeh

New Member
Gondolas and a Sky-ride are very low capacity, very susceptible to weather (wind and lightning) are incredibly unreliable, and do not have adequate climate control for a Florida. (No AC).
There are climate controlled gondolas that can move 5000 people per hour in each direction. Even half that amount of movement would be a huge relief on the buses for these massive resorts. Remember, Pop and Art are basically 1 resort with different themes.
 

DHoy

Active Member
Bus routes. On this forum we often discuss that bus routes are dedicated. Looking at the world, I would argue that bus routes act in variable fashions at least during the opening and closing hours. I.e. Bus picks up guests at beach club, drops off at MK. Then heads to poly, picks up guests and drops off at Epcot. Then bus picks up guests at Caribbean beach, drops off guests at DAK. During opening hours it would seem more efficient to cross travel busses on variable routes rather than on fixed loops.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Bus routes. On this forum we often discuss that bus routes are dedicated. Looking at the world, I would argue that bus routes act in variable fashions at least during the opening and closing hours. I.e. Bus picks up guests at beach club, drops off at MK. Then heads to poly, picks up guests and drops off at Epcot. Then bus picks up guests at Caribbean beach, drops off guests at DAK. During opening hours it would seem more efficient to cross travel busses on variable routes rather than on fixed loops.
Bus routes are not dedicated.

They do generally return to a dedicated hub (park or springs) but are continually dispatched to different resorts based on need.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
A permit was filed by PCL Construction for "FOUNDATION AND BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE" at the following addresses. These are the same addresses as the pervious permit for utility work and these match up with the locations of the six main gondola structures.

1874 Avenue of the Stars
251 E Buena Vista Dr
785 Studio Dr
1910 Animation Way
1051 Sea Breeze
1074 Sea Breeze
 

Creathir

Well-Known Member
A permit was filed by PCL Construction for "FOUNDATION AND BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE" at the following addresses. These are the same addresses as the pervious permit for utility work and these match up with the locations of the six main gondola structures.

1874 Avenue of the Stars
251 E Buena Vista Dr
785 Studio Dr
1910 Animation Way
1051 Sea Breeze
1074 Sea Breeze
Here we go folks!
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
A permit was filed by PCL Construction for "FOUNDATION AND BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE" at the following addresses. These are the same addresses as the pervious permit for utility work and these match up with the locations of the six main gondola structures.

1874 Avenue of the Stars
251 E Buena Vista Dr
785 Studio Dr
1910 Animation Way
1051 Sea Breeze
1074 Sea Breeze

Whats the expiry on the permit?
 

ev01

Member
A permit was filed by PCL Construction for "FOUNDATION AND BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE" at the following addresses. These are the same addresses as the pervious permit for utility work and these match up with the locations of the six main gondola structures.

1874 Avenue of the Stars
251 E Buena Vista Dr
785 Studio Dr
1910 Animation Way
1051 Sea Breeze
1074 Sea Breeze

So, it should be about a month or so until the commencement is filed, is that about right danlb?
 

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