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New Gondola Transportation

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by danlb_2000, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. danlb_2000

    danlb_2000 Premium Member

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    This has been discussed in other threads but it is time for it to have it's own thread.

    Recent permits related to Caribbean Beach Resort and DHS seem to indicate that a new transportation system between CBR, DHS, Epcot and possible AOA might be in the works.

    The CBR permit showed these two new structures which by themselves don't look to interesting.

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    A DHS permit this week shows two more new structure around DHS, as well as a construction access road which is not shown here.

    upload_2017-2-14_19-8-44.png

    The shapes, location, and orientation of these structure form a interesting pattern that may not be coincidental. Thanks to @P_Radden for this map.

    Based on this information a gondola/skyride system of some sort looks like a possibility.

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  2. FigmentForver96

    FigmentForver96 Well-Known Member

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    That would be a interesting mode of transportation to say the least p
     
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  3. GoofGoof

    GoofGoof Well-Known Member

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    That would be an interesting idea. Based on the fact that it crosses over the parking lots for both BW and DHS I have to assume it's something elevated so a standard light rail system would be out. Could it be a peoplemover system? That would have to be cheaper than a monorail I would think.
     
  4. flyerjab

    flyerjab Kaltxi Premium Member

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    Really hope this is true. It would provide another unique form of transportation for the resort.
     
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  5. MaryJaneP

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    Thru-put on gondola would presumably be too low to justify the expense. Elevated does seem to be the only way to cross the roads/parking-lots. As Arte Johnson used to say, "very interesting".
     
  6. DDLand

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    I like it. It's cool and distinctive, but not cool enough to ruin the appeal of the monorails. The hotels getting coverage should be able to scale up thousands of rooms and this will make them that much more attractive. This will allow Disney to properly compete with mid tier Universal Hotels. This particular amenity is great and unusual.

    With that said, International Gateway may need to be looked at depending on the scale of the system. If it connects with Art of Animation/Pop it may need a redesign just for capacity.

    This is a much better way to get to the parks.

    Edit: Disney has also been on a green push. This would reduce their carbon emissions by moving more to electric transportation. RCID already is nuclear and solar heavy as I recall, so this would fit into the plan.
     
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  7. montyz81

    montyz81 Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting. The fact that it lines up with the International Gateway makes your thought much more plausible. The only thing I question is the trip over the existing CBR buildings, or are those the ones that are set to be demolished?
     
  8. monothingie

    monothingie Here I go again. Premium Member

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    Gondolas and a Sky-ride are very low capacity, very susceptible to weather (wind and lightning) are incredibly unreliable, and do not have adequate climate control for a Florida. (No AC).
     
  9. P_Radden

    P_Radden Premium Member

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    The big thing standing out to me right now is the size of that building on the empty pad at CBR. Can someone find a decent comparison to a current WDW structure? That could be a new secondary TTC considering it's size and the area around it for parking or additional expansion
     
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  10. peter11435

    peter11435 Well-Known Member

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    They could easily have ac
     
  11. monothingie

    monothingie Here I go again. Premium Member

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    Possible, I've never been in a ski gondola with adequate heat ever though...

    Also the straightline diagram @danlb_2000 provided goes over buildings at CBR that are not being demolished. The one thing this does have going for it, is that it is cheap.
     
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    Thinking of those 90° turns. The could have a third entrance/exit out of those structures.

    Your mind just sploded. :jawdrop:
     
  13. stini228

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    So would it go over the Aruba/Jamaica at CBR buildings or are those being demolished as well?
     
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  14. monothingie

    monothingie Here I go again. Premium Member

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    [​IMG]

    Direction changing buildings are quite similar.

    Is there any possibility this could be for underground utilities or infrastructure?
     
  15. lazyboy97o

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    No.
     
  16. GoofGoof

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    I'm thinking a luxury gondola more like this than a traditional sky ride:
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    This is from Whistler mountain in Canada. The lift covers something like 3 miles in about 10 minutes and has 28 of these gondolas that hold up to 28 people. It has an hourly capacity of over 4,000 riders but would be less if it has to make multiple stops. I assume it could also be air conditioned for FL heat. The whole thing cost something like $50M to build a few years ago. Much cheaper than a monorail. I'm pretty sure the thunderstorms would still be a problem for these.
     
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  17. Sped2424

    Sped2424 Well-Known Member

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    Heat won't be a problem for the Florida climate
     
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    Just doesn't seem like it would have the capacity to be worthwhile. They could buy hundreds of buses for the same cost.
     
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  20. Captain Barbossa

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    Sounds cool
     
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