justducky78
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I agree - with big groups it's extremely rude. If it's a small group, I don't mind as much - as long as they say "excuse me" and don't push and it's apparent that they're joining someone, not just cutting.
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Line Cutting
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NASAMan
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Okay. Hope this comment doesn't combust:
I actually prefer this to FastPass. Not that I have a big problem with FastPass, although I do think some CM's do not facilitate the line reasonably (i.e. you should give fair and due consideration to those who have waited an hour in line, while still probiding FP holders a shortened line experience). But what is being described, where a member of a party waits in line while their family catches up, seems no different. This is also how those in wheelchairs should be handled: if the chair cannot navigate the queue, bring it up the exit. But a member of, or the rest of the party goes through the line. When they get to the front, the wheelchair is waiting and they all ride together. The wheelchair means special considerations, not special priviledges, so everybody else should be allowed the same.
What I do get upset with are those who travel up-queue without a courtesy to those waiting. The thoughtful guest (gee, I sound like Miss Manners! LOL!) will say "Excuse me, I'm joining my family" or something to that effect. Don't just say "'scuse", or"pardon" and say why you are forcing someone to yield to you. Same is true if you need to back out of a queue: be polite.
So, how does this practice of holding places in line compare in your opinion to the park sanctioned FastPass?
I actually prefer this to FastPass. Not that I have a big problem with FastPass, although I do think some CM's do not facilitate the line reasonably (i.e. you should give fair and due consideration to those who have waited an hour in line, while still probiding FP holders a shortened line experience). But what is being described, where a member of a party waits in line while their family catches up, seems no different. This is also how those in wheelchairs should be handled: if the chair cannot navigate the queue, bring it up the exit. But a member of, or the rest of the party goes through the line. When they get to the front, the wheelchair is waiting and they all ride together. The wheelchair means special considerations, not special priviledges, so everybody else should be allowed the same.
What I do get upset with are those who travel up-queue without a courtesy to those waiting. The thoughtful guest (gee, I sound like Miss Manners! LOL!) will say "Excuse me, I'm joining my family" or something to that effect. Don't just say "'scuse", or"pardon" and say why you are forcing someone to yield to you. Same is true if you need to back out of a queue: be polite.
So, how does this practice of holding places in line compare in your opinion to the park sanctioned FastPass?
RonAnnArbor
Well-Known Member
NASAMan said:
I think that you are throwing this topic off of its intention - we have other threads for those who don't like fastpass to vent about it, it doesn't have to be brought up at every opportunity.
I was there last week as well, and I found the most annoying line cutting was actually in the morning going into Epcot...there isn't enough room for the lines to really stay lines after a certain point -- so while the lines would wrap back around, that absolutely would not stop determined mom of twins in stroller to just cut right in with the rest of her family and pretend she had no idea. This seems consistent across all of the Epcot entrances.
There was some line cutting in Everest - mostly friends spotting each other across the cue and then "moving up" to be with them. In all honesty, that doesn't bother me as much since 3 people moving up in a line of a thousand is relatively negligible.
The stroller moms, though, drove me insane. Toddler in tow or no toddler in tow, get on line.
allabtbrdway
New Member
My family does this all the time. Sometimes the three of us will wait in line while the other will go get a fast pass, or get food/drinks (sometimes 2 depending one how much one can carry). Also, yes i know everyone has to wait in the lines all day, but sometimes one needs a break. Unless you are going to the parks by yourself, you too can have one person wait in line while you go rest/get something to eat ect. Some of you have said that if one person has to go to the bathroom, then the whole party should wait, i dont understand this, it doesnt take an entire family for one person to go to the bathroom! I guess i just dont see what the big deal is, we have never had anyone say anything to us about it, and it doesnt bother us... UNLESS it is a tour group, i def know what you are talking about there! 2 people is wayyy different that 25 people!
sorry if this offends anyone or makes it seem like im ranting. I, just being one who is guilty of the accusations, dont like to be called ignorant or rude! especially if we are all polite about it! :veryconfu
sorry if this offends anyone or makes it seem like im ranting. I, just being one who is guilty of the accusations, dont like to be called ignorant or rude! especially if we are all polite about it! :veryconfu
You all take the line cutting thing too serious. Who cares if 5 or 6 people join someone in line, that someone that was holding their spots to begin with. It's not like 5 or 6 extra people will hold up you up in line much longer. Maybe 5 minutes max? Come on people.:hammer:
allabtbrdway
New Member
Exactly, they are all going to be riding together as a family anyway, You arent going to get on any faster if it is a family member holding a spot for another family member. If there are two people in line for a four person ride, having the other one or two persons come up isnt going to effect your wait time. You arent going to split your family up to fill those extra two seats that you thought would be open. And, if its a two person ride, then you have to wait for one more car. If it is one - three people, i really dont see the fuss about this!
johnvca
New Member
inDisney said:
I'm not sure its the 5 or 6 people that is the problem. I think it is the 5 or 6 groups that are holding spots for 5 or 6 people that is an issue. Granted, 5 people may only hold up the line for 5 minutes, but 5 different families doing this will hold up the line considerably longer. I for one could care less because I make it a point not to let the small things bother me, epecially when I'm on vacation. But those complaining do have a good argument.
crazydaveh
Active Member
I too hate it when this happens, though I recently hit the parks with my four year old niece, and that changed by mind. Never before have I had to leave the line so many times to go to the bathroom! I know she is small, but man, her bladder has to be microscopic! Luckily we were always around others with kids who understood getting into and out of the line. I think if people see you leaving the line and then returning a few minutes later, they understand rather than cussing people who just join the line out of nowhere.
Yesterday, I was at EPCOT. I was waiting in a 10 minute line for Maelstrom and a lady comes through saying "excuse me." We let her through and made a comment as everyone else did and forgot about it. A few minutes later, we see her tell the CM at the end of the line, 1 person! This made many behind her very upset. One man started yelling at her. The CM didn't get it at first, then did but let her ride. She was sitting in the front row, and the people sitting behind her were saying things to her. Crazy to do this on Maelstrom with only a 10 minute wait!
Tour groups also annoy me for the same reason. One person waits, 30 more join them later. So annoying. I wish they had cameras watching, or people watching the cameras they do have!
Yesterday, I was at EPCOT. I was waiting in a 10 minute line for Maelstrom and a lady comes through saying "excuse me." We let her through and made a comment as everyone else did and forgot about it. A few minutes later, we see her tell the CM at the end of the line, 1 person! This made many behind her very upset. One man started yelling at her. The CM didn't get it at first, then did but let her ride. She was sitting in the front row, and the people sitting behind her were saying things to her. Crazy to do this on Maelstrom with only a 10 minute wait!
Tour groups also annoy me for the same reason. One person waits, 30 more join them later. So annoying. I wish they had cameras watching, or people watching the cameras they do have!
allabtbrdway
New Member
i dont see it as cutting in line if someone in the same party is already waiting. The lady who walked all the way up the line....that is cutting. My family has never had a problem with this and we go all the time..i dont want you to think we do this for every ride! b/c that is def not the case, but i am fessing up, my family sometimes does it! when at disney, so many people seem so tense and angry all the time, disney is supposed to be relaxing....just relax!
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
I also must admit, that I am guilty. Well, let me refrase that, I have done this on my last trip(3/14-3/18ish) and will more than likely do it my next trips.
I mean really, I can see it, when its just me trying to join my dad in line, or when its my dad trying to join me in line, thats seems fair. Even a cm at IASW said that it was ok to this one lady, more than likely because she had a child.
I saw this one cm escort two people through the fastpass line at soarin to find their family member(s) and I thought that was efficient way to do it. But, it may not always work.
My dad will fp the ride then come meet me in line. On emh at epcot, my dad bought himself a cookie, while I was in line for soarin, came and found me, then I got out of line to go to the restroom, got back in and come and found him, I would have gone over the fastpass line like I did on space mountain, and walk all the way until I say him in line and hopped over, but as we know, soarin fastpass line toward the end has that gaint wall, so hopping over would be impossible.
I mean really, I can see it, when its just me trying to join my dad in line, or when its my dad trying to join me in line, thats seems fair. Even a cm at IASW said that it was ok to this one lady, more than likely because she had a child.
I saw this one cm escort two people through the fastpass line at soarin to find their family member(s) and I thought that was efficient way to do it. But, it may not always work.
My dad will fp the ride then come meet me in line. On emh at epcot, my dad bought himself a cookie, while I was in line for soarin, came and found me, then I got out of line to go to the restroom, got back in and come and found him, I would have gone over the fastpass line like I did on space mountain, and walk all the way until I say him in line and hopped over, but as we know, soarin fastpass line toward the end has that gaint wall, so hopping over would be impossible.
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
unkadug said:
Im sorry, but were you referring to me. If so, I didnt really have to justify anything. If I want to meet my dad in line for a ride, then I will. If I could find a more convenient way to do it, then more than likely I will to. I dont see the point in waiting while I could be closer to the ride while in line. I mean come on!
Listen everyone, everybody does it. It's not going to stop. I know that if I had someone in line, I am going to go to where that person is. I am not going to go to the end of the line, especially if the person/people I am with are in line already. I don't care what anyone says, I am going to cut the line. One thing is if you cut without having someone in line, and having someone there.:hammer: