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If I could improve Walt Disney World....

Discussion in 'Imagineer' started by stitchcastle, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. S.P.E.W

    S.P.E.W Well-Known Member

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    I'm just going to avoid 1 and 3 because X-Men is owned by Fox Studios and I don't know about Defenders. Both would mostly exist in Hollywood Studios as a zone or part of one; like New York City or in a 5th gate similar to IoA, DisneySEA or an all Marvel theme park. Besides that, I'm think about a Marvel hotel maybe.
     
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  2. spacemt354

    spacemt354 Chili's

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    I think Toy Story Land could have been a Marvel Land -- or Star Wars Land would have taken over Star Tours/Indy while Marvel took over the Backlot.

    X-Men I could see the Academy (similar to Jedi Training Academy)

    Defenders are a bit too dark I think for a Marvel land (at least on the Netflix shows) and Guardians would fit as a replacement for Laugh Floor (across from the Ant Man Adventure Thru Inner Space I was mentioning earlier and I think even @michmousefan had a concept on that)
     
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  3. mharrington

    mharrington Well-Known Member

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    I was originally going to have another Toontown-like area in the Magic Kingdom, in the back corner of the park, like so:
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    As you can see, this takes a cue from Disneyland's installation of the Star Wars land by reducing and rerouting the Rivers of America and improving traffic flow besides. Note the footpaths and bridges on the new island - only keelboats will now travel the river; the rafts are now obsolete and will be nixed and the Liberty Belle Riverboat will now become a restaurant.

    Anyway, back on topic, the new land will be a land home to Mickey and the gang, but whereas previously I was thinking of another Toontown-like area back there, called Mickey's Startown, I am now thinking of doing it over either as a revival and expansion of sorts of Camp Minnie-Mickey from the Animal Kingdom or as a beach-themed area. I'm kind of leaning towards the camp theme in order to fit better with the Frontierland/Liberty Square theme, but the beach idea holds water (so to speak), too, if only because of this one event from Tokyo Disneyland, which features a Disney song called "Splashdance":


    Another thing I want to take into account is the WDW Railroad that will surely be visible from this area.
     
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  4. spacemt354

    spacemt354 Chili's

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    Did you make that map? It's really good!
     
  5. mharrington

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    Sort of. I just took part of a preexisting map from Wiki Maps or wherever and tried to alter it accordingly. So what do you think of my idea for the Mickey-themed area back there? I can't decide which one: camp or beach? The camp one makes sense due to the area's proximity to Frontierland and Liberty Square (not to mention it can be a revival of sorts of an old land), but the beach theme also holds water, as it were, with me, too.
     
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  6. Benjlufc

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    Truthfully, not to hate, but in my opinion, the camps have nothing that good to do... Any land in the theme parks is valuable, and I think a camp type idea would be a waste of space that could have gone to make something amazing - would you have Camp Minnie Mickey, with a few meet and greets, or Avatar Land, with stunning theming and rides/attractions(also, a major, stunning expansion would have a meet and greet with someone anyway). Said land could make an amazing expansion with high quality rides, shows and restaurants, that's what I think.
     
  7. mharrington

    mharrington Well-Known Member

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    This would be an improved version of Camp Minnie-Mickey. It will be nothing like the seemingly temporary place with just a few character trails and some (in hindsight) ill-fitting shows. It will have real attractions. The only two things this CMM has in common with the old one are the name and the overall theme.

    Besides, I really want to have a land for Mickey and the gang to call their own - in addition to having attractions in other lands in the park. The Startown concept really doesn't fit back there thematically.
     
  8. Benjlufc

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    Well then, what about the Circus area(whatever it's called), which is simlar to Mickey's Toontown in California(maybe a bit smaller), there are sone meet and greets, dumbo and the barnstormer, could they not just add a dark ride onto the back of that?
     
  9. mharrington

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    I've been thinking about the Madcap Circus idea, but more recently, someone else provided their own Mickey dark ride in the park, on Main Street, located in what is currently the Tinkerbell meet-n-greet spot in the Town Square Theater (or at least it was, I don't know if it is now). It's in the style of Mr. Toad, and I thought it looked good.

    But I kind of feel that Mickey and friends are kind of ignored as little more than figureheads, and I want to change that.
     
  10. Benjlufc

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    I agree, but I also think that it would be difficult to create a good land themed around mickey and pals, it would need at least one E or D ticket attraction, otherwise nobody would use the area and it would end up just being replaced.
     
  11. mharrington

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    Why does it seem like the only "solution" to any park's "problems" is an E ticket attraction?

    And they have done some at least one good land based around Mickey and friends: namely, Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland. So who's to say that the CMM concept can't be reworked? One thing I was thinking of was an eatery similar to the new Camp Woodchuck Kitchen in Tokyo Disneyland. That's just for example.
     
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  12. mharrington

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    I'm kind of on the fence about whether to do Mickey's Magical Madcap Adventure or Mickey's Colorfully Timeless Twist on Main Street. The reason I am indecisive between the two is while they both sound appealing to me, I'm kinda favoring Timeless Twist, as it features elements of Mickey's old cartoons. But the rumor of the Great Movie Ride being replaced by a Mickey ride like this seems to make the Timeless Twist concept kind of redundant.

    I'm trying to keep open on how things turn out (one idea will be still available as backup if the other concept happens), but I'd be disappointed if I didn't get to have a ride referencing shorts in the Magic Kingdom rather than the Studios, which is where the Great Movie Ride obviously is.
     

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