Pre-Trip 2 Broke Guys (now with Table of Contents!)

Important note: First post edited 7/13/17 to make this odyssey easier to follow!

The reason is I started this pre-trip report over a year ago to help plan our most important trip ever (so far) our 10 year wedding anniversary trip.

However, we have AP's, and we took many short "side-trips" along the way. Rather than creating so many Trip Report threads and looking like a total egomaniac, I just added those mini-TR's into this same thread.

People have said it was hard to follow (I can see that.) Someone suggested putting a "table of contents" in the beginning. So that's what I'm doing. Then you can skip to the pages with the other trip reports, or just read the ones pertaining to "the big one" coming up in early September, 2017.

I will post that trip report separately when it finally happens, but will of course link to it here.

Speaking of linking here, here's a little background. This old post details our vow renewals a few years ago, for a very specific reason. If you haven't read my other trip reports or interacted with me very much on the boards, it kind of sets the stage for what's to come. Here's that link:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...orporate-disney-into-your-vow-renewal.903761/

What follows is the original first post (from 2/11/16) of this long, long thread. At the end of it, I'll put the table of contents to guide you through the rest of the thread.

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tampa, just an hour away from "home." And I'm thinking about it LOL. Oh, am I thinking about it.

When I'm "home home" - in Fort Lauderdale, I never have time to do more than some quick posts because I am always busy with work.

This is going to be a long-@ss pre-trip report.

Not necessarily this first post, but the report as a whole - by necessity, since the trip isn't until early September 2017. And I know I can use some help and advice in putting this all together - it's a very special trip - and have already begun organizing my thoughts based on discussions on this forum.

The basic premise is this: We are going to spend our 10-year wedding anniversary celebration at WDW, with the centerpiece of that trip to be the biggest dinner we can afford at Victoria & Albert's (hopefully the chef's table.) One of the things we enjoy most about Disney in our forties are the amazing meals at places like the Flying Fish Cafe and the Yachtsman's Steakhouse. I expect this meal will be at least as mind-blowing, but probably more.

The catch is - it costs a freaking fortune (at least to us.) I'm estimating something like $600 to $800 when all is said and done(?) And there is no way I could justify spending that much money on one meal.

Except...we have the Disney Chase Visa card, and have come to rely on this for our last several trips. This has opened doors to new experiences that we couldn't afford before. Instead of getting a 4-day ticket, we started getting AP's. Instead of staying off property, we started staying at Disney Moderates. And loved it!

And - we have a year off (sort of) to save up for this magical trip and important celebration. For the last several years, we've been getting the Florida Resident Weekday Select Annual Pass every other year, never two years in a row. I think it's good to go away and miss it for awhile, especially with all the work being done. Stay away for a year and come back to lots of little surprises. (Like those metal detectors! Ha!) They're fine. Anyway, that's the responsible side of me to say we shouldn't spend that much money every year. (We really shouldn't.)

But the advantage of that in this case is to amass Disney Chase Visa card points for months on end (sort of.) We used up all the rest of our points on our last short trip in January of 2016. But then at the end of the month, we earned more money. It's just sitting there...LOL.

Well, I made a deal with myself - if I can save up that $700 or $800 just in Chase points, then I can justify booking that meal at Victoria & Albert's. So that is the first goal. I know somebody will tell me when is the first day I can book it, and I will make a note on my phone so I don't forget LOL.

Based on January rewards being $146.50, I'm thinking this should be cake. (Mmm...cake...)

I'm not saving up for this September, but next September 2017. Total cake, right?!

Then we have to figure out where to stay. I'd like it to be our first Deluxe (possibly on the special floor with the extra goodies) and probably our first DVC rental. DVC Upside - real cost is less. Downside - can't pay for it with Disney Chase dollars LOL. That is funny, but it is a real consideration.

There's the obvious choice - to stay in the Grand Floridian to be where Victoria & Albert's is.

I don't know if that would be my favorite place in general.

I think my favorite place might be the Polynesian - I like the food & the vibe - and the walking into MK. I think that's a must on this trip - have to be able to walk to somewhere. That would include all of the Boardwalk area properties, which are fine with me as well.

Or AK with the Savannah view.

Then there's the corny and sentimental way - 10 years ago, our honeymoon was to Key West. They have a Key West DVC hotel. We love Olivia's. Somehow it doesn't seem big deal enough or have something special like a footpath to MK lol.

At the very least, a monorail resort, even if not walking distance, would be preferred.

Then we have to figure out whether or not to bring the dog or leave her home, drive or fly, diet for 6 months for the pictures LOL. Maybe this one and only trip would be worth memory maker?

I want to really blow it out - something we will never forget. Go for the upgrades. Pick the right tour or tours. So much to discuss!!

I will end each post in this saga like the parodied "2 Broke Girls" TV show, with the dollar amount of whatever they have left or have made at the end of the show, so you can see where they are in their goal.

So for example, tonight's would be:

$146.50

I'll add in any WDW Gift Cards I might buy or receive in the next year as part of what's saved up for that trip. My free BJ's trial period just expired, so I won't be getting any discounted GC's from them.

Now - the potential issue: there is no way we are not going to go to Disney in some way until September of 2017. We are toying with skipping our usual January or April trip in order to go full-on crazy in September.

But we are also toying with things like my dilemma as I sit here in this hotel with all this time to type. We're less than an hour away. I told this story in more detail at the end of my last trip report thread, so I'll just make it very short: Brian is working in Tampa from the end of January until the middle of February (over three weeks.) Yesterday I packed up our pup and drove up to visit, with our Valentine's Day gifts in tow (mostly specialty sugar-free chocolate dipped pretzels potato chips, oreos, plus peppermint bark, etc. We know we won't see each other for Valentine's Day, so basically tomorrow is it, unless I stay until Saturday morning.

Since no WDW trip was planned, I did not bring either my Tables In Wonderland card, or my Chase rewards gift card. But I called, and confirmed I could go to Guest Services and get another gift card (which of course can be loaded automatically.) There's a nice lunch reservation open. There's a spot for the pup at Best Friends Pet Care for 1/2 day care.

On the one hand - this would be something like a 45 minute to 1 hour drive for Brian from 12:30 to 1:30 to go to a special Disney lunch at 1:50, hang out for a bit, and then drive back 45 minutes to an hour to go to work by 4PM until 4AM. (I would have my own car, spend more money buying Disney records for my record store after lunch, go pick up the dog, and drive home to Fort Lauderdale.)

The other option is to drop the pup off at Petco in Tampa for a shampoo, and then hurry to whatever local restaurant is near that Petco, and meh.

Who would ever forget picking up and driving to WDW just for lunch for Valentine's Day (early) There's a fun story to remember when we're in our 60's LOL.

But it would already deplete our current total towards our V&A goal:

$146.50

OK, that was the first post of this whole thing. Now here comes the table of contents. Separate trip reports will be listed in bold. Regular stuff won't.

Posts 1-11 planning.
Posts 12-18: "The Blip Report" - a spur of the moment, one day drive over to the Yacht Club for Valentine's Day lunch at Captain's Grille (with dog.)
Posts 19-70 planning.
Posts 71-199 (page 4) pre-trip (back pain) & TR for 3-day quickie in September 2016 for Food & Wine (no dog, meeting Tuvalu, car trouble LOL) (skip it if you're only in for the anniversary trip!)
Posts 200-210 stuff. (starts bottom of page 10)
Posts 211-258-ish (begins page 11) "micro-trip" - had to go back up to get our car, might as well visit the Mouse!
Posts 258-ish to 276 planning.
Posts 277-283 (page 14) Pre-trip for almost Christmas at Saratoga Springs
Posts 284-331 planning, chit-chat, Thanksgiving
Posts 332-380 (page 17) That almost Christmas trip at Saratoga Springs
Posts 381-392 (Page 20) mostly chit-chat
Posts 393-561 (starts on page 20) (Several short trips back and forth since Brian had sporadic work in Orlando - all with dog!) Including Flower & Garden, Tiffins, more Tiffins, Valentine's Day again, RoL, and to confuse things, somwhere around #522 I'm at WDW but also planning the September 2017 trip (it was the 180 day mark for ADR's!)
Posts 562-569 chit chat
Posts 570-605 (page 29) - omg another quickie trip, Paddlefish
Posts 606-614 chit chat
Posts 615-657 (page 31) omg another trip - Wishes at Cali Grill (our last time seeing it)
Posts 658-694 chit chat, Record Store Day, Nashville
Posts 695- serious September planning!!

 
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21stamps

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You know I never have a short answer for anything. :happy:

I called WDW to ask if they would let us park at the Contemporary (or Poly, for that matter) without an ADR. (We've had issues with this in the past.) The CM said basically it's the luck of the draw depending on who is working the gate. :grumpy: Pretty much what we already knew.

I asked her if she saw anything available at Cali Grill (I saw none on my end.) She said no, nothing in the entire Contemporary the whole night.

I got on my WDW app, and bingo! There was a res available for 9:05PM at Cali Grill. :joyfull:

That's some serious serendipitous magic, there! :p Voila!

This will be our first time there. Wishes is at 10PM. Let's see how we can mess this up, er, have a great evening!

Also - I just went to get something out of the car, and found Kylie's Mickey toy in the back seat, and I feel *so bad* she is at BFPC all day with no Mickey to chew! :arghh::cry: Bad Daddy. :cry::cry::cry:
Awesome!! Have fun!!!

I'm sure Kylie is still having fun even without her toy!
 

BuddyThomas

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You know I never have a short answer for anything. :happy:

I called WDW to ask if they would let us park at the Contemporary (or Poly, for that matter) without an ADR. (We've had issues with this in the past.) The CM said basically it's the luck of the draw depending on who is working the gate. :grumpy: Pretty much what we already knew.

I asked her if she saw anything available at Cali Grill (I saw none on my end.) She said no, nothing in the entire Contemporary the whole night.

I got on my WDW app, and bingo! There was a res available for 9:05PM at Cali Grill. :joyfull:

That's some serious serendipitous magic, there! :p Voila!

This will be our first time there. Wishes is at 10PM. Let's see how we can mess this up, er, have a great evening!

Also - I just went to get something out of the car, and found Kylie's Mickey toy in the back seat, and I feel *so bad* she is at BFPC all day with no Mickey to chew! :arghh::cry: Bad Daddy. :cry::cry::cry:
Okay, I've had enough. It's just not fair.

Here's what needs to happen next. We're going to pull a Freaky Friday!

I guess I'm technically slightly older so I'll be Barbara Harris/Jamie Lee Curtis and you can be Jodie Foster/Lindsey Lohan. You can be zapped into my body and you can draft theatre contracts all day and then go see Broadway shows all night and you'll have a higher tolerance for booze because, well, look whose body you're getting zapped into! You can basically drink an entire oil tanker worth of booze and the biggest consequence will be a hotel room lock out. ;) Plus you'll have to deal with a cat instead of a dog and you'll have to deal with Disney hating Phil, but at least he'll take you to the best pizza in New York every Saturday night. And you won't even have to put out. Because he hasn't put out in years. Grrrrrr.

Annnnnyway.........

I, on the other hand, will get to run a record store (probably into the ground!) and will go to Disney every other day and play with a dog and get flirted with by some crazy biker. And I guess a broken back but I'll deal with it for Disney.

And by the time we zap back into our own bodies again, I can guarantee you that you will not be a lightweight when it comes to booze any longer.

;)
 
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BuddyThomas

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So...

First - glad I went with my gut. Thoroughly enjoyed that sandwich and just relaxing at my lovely CBR to eat it, catch up on morning emails (work) etc.

I thought afterwards I might walk a lap around the resort, which I always do when I stay there - and maybe steal a few minutes in a hammock even though I'm not a guest. Again, gorgeous weather.

But first, a drink to relax...

Like last time, Mike ("our" bartender at CBR) was not there. Unlike ever, there was a line 6 people deep in the center of the bar. There was one guy sitting with his feet up on another chair taking up most of the left side. There was another guy sitting on the right side of the bar and a few empty chairs. I sat in the very last empty chair on the right side of the bar.

They had Crown Apple! Woo hoo! I ordered one on the rocks with lemon. The bartender, Stephanie, asked if I wanted a double and said it was only two bucks more. Oh, twist my arm. (It wasn't two bucks more - it was four bucks more when the bill came, but ok, it's a pricey drink.)

The guy near me happened to mention Mike the bartender. I remarked that Mike was "good people."

Big mistake. Huge. (Not really, but fun to use that line.)

This guy would not shut up. Ever. He was already toasty. He's from Illinois (2 miles from Peoria) his wife just had spinal fusion surgery and couldn't make this trip but he's been here 9 days, loves Mike and is leaving tomorrow.

He was loud. He was obnoxious. The bartender could not keep up with the line of people waiting for drinks and he kept pestering her. He was carrying on a conversation with two women from NJ at a nearby table.

Finally he asked me where my wife was. :confused:

Apparently I looked surprised. :jawdrop:

He mentioned my wedding band. I said, "My husband, actually. He's at work."

"You're sh***ing me."

"No, he's really at work."

"No, I mean I never would have guessed."

@BuddyThomas you've been there, right?

OK. Yes, I'm gay. Yes, really. No, I don't always queen out but sometimes I do. No, not every gay person you've ever seen lisps - only the ones you think you know are gay. Oh, Lord. Now I'm the Ambassador to Middle America for LGBT Affairs. I'm the White Guy Whisperer.

He was trying his best to be nice about it, and given that he used the n-word once while referring to his black dog, he did pretty well. (We showed each other pictures of our dogs. I showed him a picture of Brian because he was curious and still somehow incredulous.)

He offered to buy me a drink. I said I couldn't have two doubles. OK, he'd buy us a shot. Fine.

Two chilled Patron shots. Lime and salt? No, I don't need that stuff. "Are you sh***ing me again?"

:rolleyes: Remarkably, I'm gay and don't need training wheels for tequila shots. How manly is that?

He mentioned he had been in jail, he was a biker ("Outlaw") who would shoot a Hell's Angel on sight, and that he tried it with a guy once.

What?

Do you see where this is going yet, @BuddyThomas ??

He bought us another shot and declared the next one was on me. When he went to use the restroom, I told the bartender I could not manage another drink but please back him up for one. I freely admit I am a lightweight since I gave up bartending.

Meanwhile, Mike the bartender showed up. This guy (Wesley) was hooting and hollering at Mike, and Mike basically shut him down and ignored him.

Side note: I'm quite buzzed now. And this whole thing has been mostly entertaining - even when Wesley is shouting about gay stuff as the line is 6 people deep for a drink at the Disney bar. (That line never went down until Mike got there.)

One of Wesley's last comments was something to the effect of if things keep going like this, he might take me back to his room.






:hilarious:




Right. Because that would be my privilege. Because that's what we gay guys live for.

:banghead:

I politely reminded him that I was married. I added, perhaps redundantly, that I was "old school."

And yes, he was serious.

I suppose after Mike's rejection and mine, that was enough for Wesley, and he took his drink and left the bar.

I already felt bad for his wife because of the back surgery. I felt even worse for her because her husband was that big of a :hungover:

Mike came over, realized who I was, and apologized for not making eye contact sooner because he couldn't stand that drunk guy LOL.

So...kind of a wth kind of afternoon! "One drink..." But I had fun and chilled out. I needed that.

Side note: "A CM" mentioned the new sit-down restaurant at CBR will be located not far from where my bar stool had been. Yep, it's going that far out into the courtyard.:eek:

And the bar will be in a trailer for an estimated 14 months. :cautious::cry:

B is napping. I should be. And then dinner. Btw, I did find some records at the nearby Goodwill. They're a good source every once in awhile. (**bonus!**)
This is hysterical. Yeah I can relate, Tony. But I don't always put it out there. Which causes for some interesting problems. For instance:

The woman who cuts my hair is awesome. Her name is Maria, and she is from Romania. She looks exactly like Red from Orange is the New Black, and she sounds like it too.

One day, long ago, she saw my "wedding" ring (Phil and I are not married, but we have rings), and she said, "Ohhh, I never noticed you were married. I bet your wife has a really nice ring."

And I'm sort of like, "emmm-hmmmm...."

I'm not big on the small talk thing, but Maria likes to talk. She always tells me about her family, her holidays, etc, and eventually she asks me what my wife's name is. Not wanting to get into it, I somehow blurted out "Sandy".

Huh?? Grease must have been on tv the previous weekend.

She then asks me what Sandy does, and now I'm like, good grief, I have to come up with a career for the fictional Sandy. I decide that she works in real estate.

"Oooooh, that's a tough job these days", she says.

"Emmmmmmm-hmmmmm...." I say.

To make a long story short (too late), over the years, and many haircuts, and many questions from Maria from Romania, Sandy did very well in real estate for a while, but then lost her job, and moved back to her mother's place (this was my attempt to get rid of this whole story, but Maria kept asking questions). Sandy and I then got back together, but the mother-in-law hates me now. I want kids but Sandy refuses. (This always enrages Maria. - "Why that woman won't give you kids?!?! Now you both too old. Now it too late!!" ----err, thanks Maria! Why don't we just crawl intro our coffin now?) And every vacation, Sandy and I go to Disney World, because it is Sandy's favorite place. Maria says "I think that lady might be crazy". I'm like, "I know."

I've told Phil all about this, and how I have somehow worked my way into a spider web of lies with Maria. He thinks it is hysterical, and he is certain that Maria is going to invite Buddy and Sandy over for dinner one night and then I am going to have to go full Three's Company and hire someone to play Sandy. Any volunteers? ;)
 

Tony the Tigger

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Okay, I've had enough. It's just not fair.

Here's what needs to happen next. We're going to pull a Freaky Friday!

I guess I'm technically slightly older so I'll be Barbara Harris/Jamie Lee Curtis and you can be Jodie Foster/Lindsey Lohan. You can be zapped into my body and you can draft theatre contracts all day and then go see Broadway shows all night and you'll have a higher tolerance for booze because, well, look whose body you're getting zapped into! You can basically drink an entire oil tanker worth of booze and the biggest consequence will be a hotel room lock out. ;) Plus you'll have to deal with a cat instead of a dog and you'll have to deal with Disney hating Phil, but at least he'll take you to the best pizza in New York every Saturday night. And you won't even have to put out. Because he hasn't put out in years. Grrrrrr.

Annnnnyway.........

I, on the other hand, will get to run a record store (probably into the ground!) and will go to Disney every other day and play with a dog and get flirted with by some crazy biker. And I guess a broken back but I'll deal with it for Disney.

And by the time we zap back into our own bodies again, I can guarantee you that you will not be a lightweight when it comes to booze any longer.

;)

Even though I'm pretty sure this post has shrunk a bit since last night ("Regrets...I've had a few...") you crack me the heck up!

Btw, it's always the Barbara Harris & Jodie Foster version.

Btw, I've been meaning to throw it up to your face that you are on Broadway every night. ;)

This is hysterical. Yeah I can relate, Tony. But I don't always put it out there. Which causes for some interesting problems. For instance:

The woman who cuts my hair is awesome. Her name is Maria, and she is from Romania. She looks exactly like Red from Orange is the New Black, and she sounds like it too.

One day, long ago, she saw my "wedding" ring (Phil and I are not married, but we have rings), and she said, "Ohhh, I never noticed you were married. I bet your wife has a really nice ring."

And I'm sort of like, "emmm-hmmmm...."

I'm not big on the small talk thing, but Maria likes to talk. She always tells me about her family, her holidays, etc, and eventually she asks me what my wife's name is. Not wanting to get into it, I somehow blurted out "Sandy".

Huh?? Grease must have been on tv the previous weekend.

She then asks me what Sandy does, and now I'm like, good grief, I have to come up with a career for the fictional Sandy. I decide that she works in real estate.

"Oooooh, that's a tough job these days", she says.

"Emmmmmmm-hmmmmm...." I say.

To make a long story short (too late), over the years, and many haircuts, and many questions from Maria from Romania, Sandy did very well in real estate for a while, but then lost her job, and moved back to her mother's place (this was my attempt to get rid of this whole story, but Maria kept asking questions). Sandy and I then got back together, but the mother-in-law hates me now. I want kids but Sandy refuses. (This always enrages Maria. - "Why that woman won't give you kids?!?! Now you both too old. Now it too late!!" ----err, thanks Maria! Why don't we just crawl intro our coffin now?) And every vacation, Sandy and I go to Disney World, because it is Sandy's favorite place. Maria says "I think that lady might be crazy". I'm like, "I know."

I've told Phil all about this, and how I have somehow worked my way into a spider web of lies with Maria. He thinks it is hysterical, and he is certain that Maria is going to invite Buddy and Sandy over for dinner one night and then I am going to have to go full Three's Company and hire someone to play Sandy. Any volunteers? ;)

Winner! Post of the decade! Sandy?!? O.M.*.G!

That is the best story. It's like being in the closet again lol.

It might have to end with Sandy turning out to be a Russian spy - which would explain everything - or, going back to Australia with her family before her senior year of high school.

Phil is right - that is truly hysterical!
 
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Tony the Tigger

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But I don't always put it out there.

I guess about 20 years ago, I decided to force myself to speak up in those situations - in a non-confrontational way, even if it's a little uncomfortable or risky for me.

While I don't enter every room with a rainbow banner and a glitter bomb, if someone assumes I'm straight and makes a comment about gay people, I have to say something. I typically try to keep it light and humorous.

Example: in the dentist's chair. Dentist making fun of GWB doing xyz. (Yes!) Dentist says, "I think he's gay," intending it to be a slam. I respond, "Hell, I AM gay, and I would never do xyz." We both laugh and move on.

That's it. Just making the point. No lecture, no condemnation. Just reminding people you never know to whom you are speaking.

Back then, I took the earring out of my left ear and got my right ear pierced instead, specifically to keep myself honest when it might be easier to just "pass." Then I traveled all over the country for four years, through all kinds of neighborhoods, getting inventory (CDs) for my business and selling them on line. There was never an issue.

Side note: I get annoyed with people who act like there is something wrong with the guys who are more effeminate. If anything, they tend to have more guts, IMO. I used to bartend on Saturday afternoons at a gay bar where the gay softball teams would come hang after their games. And some of the players felt the need to bag on the queens for the same reasons, I suspect, some straight guys do. So much revolves around perception of masculinity in this world, it's ridiculous. Honey, your softball uniform is just another form of drag.

Anyway, here is the promised better pic of the WDW logo at the soccer stadium.
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Apparently they are a big sponsor.
 

MySmallWorldof4

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This is hysterical. Yeah I can relate, Tony. But I don't always put it out there. Which causes for some interesting problems. For instance:

The woman who cuts my hair is awesome. Her name is Maria, and she is from Romania. She looks exactly like Red from Orange is the New Black, and she sounds like it too.

One day, long ago, she saw my "wedding" ring (Phil and I are not married, but we have rings), and she said, "Ohhh, I never noticed you were married. I bet your wife has a really nice ring."

And I'm sort of like, "emmm-hmmmm...."

I'm not big on the small talk thing, but Maria likes to talk. She always tells me about her family, her holidays, etc, and eventually she asks me what my wife's name is. Not wanting to get into it, I somehow blurted out "Sandy".

Huh?? Grease must have been on tv the previous weekend.

She then asks me what Sandy does, and now I'm like, good grief, I have to come up with a career for the fictional Sandy. I decide that she works in real estate.

"Oooooh, that's a tough job these days", she says.

"Emmmmmmm-hmmmmm...." I say.

To make a long story short (too late), over the years, and many haircuts, and many questions from Maria from Romania, Sandy did very well in real estate for a while, but then lost her job, and moved back to her mother's place (this was my attempt to get rid of this whole story, but Maria kept asking questions). Sandy and I then got back together, but the mother-in-law hates me now. I want kids but Sandy refuses. (This always enrages Maria. - "Why that woman won't give you kids?!?! Now you both too old. Now it too late!!" ----err, thanks Maria! Why don't we just crawl intro our coffin now?) And every vacation, Sandy and I go to Disney World, because it is Sandy's favorite place. Maria says "I think that lady might be crazy". I'm like, "I know."

I've told Phil all about this, and how I have somehow worked my way into a spider web of lies with Maria. He thinks it is hysterical, and he is certain that Maria is going to invite Buddy and Sandy over for dinner one night and then I am going to have to go full Three's Company and hire someone to play Sandy. Any volunteers? ;)
This post has me :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:. The previous one too. I just don't like the Freaky Friday remake. Can we just stick with the original?;)
 

Tony the Tigger

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We had a really nice evening. Ta-da!

That last minute reservation was a lucky get. 9:05PM with Wishes at 10. Perfect. I heard the guy at the table next to us telling his daughter(?) how hard it was to get an ADR here at this hour. Score!

Let's start with cocktails (and bread service.) Brian's beer: the very last one on the list - vanilla, chocolate, enigma!
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(I left the list intact so you can see the other options.)

This was very nice, and I don't like most dark beer.

I went with the last item on this list:
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Now that was an excellent Manhattan. Thoroughly enjoyed it - and pretty strong.

You'll see a pic of it with our first appetizer (we decided to go small plates again just for the variety.)

This was the first day on the menu for this appetizer! (several items were different from the online menu. There was no ostrich filet, for example.)

It's the first line in this pic:
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Tony the Tigger

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I can't like this.

We were really kind of bored with the entrées. Having just read the online menu an hour before getting there, it was very similar. The ostrich was gone. There was a new chicken dish. Pretty sure the rest of the entrées were the same.

The lamb app was good - tasty, lots of flavors - but might not be for everyone. The lamb itself had a very high percentage of fat. I mean very high. Normally, that's something I wouldn't even tolerate. I trim the fat off everything I eat. It makes me gag. In this case, it was fine. It didn't have that gross, chewy texture. Still, I would have preferred more actual meat-meat.

If you refer back to my previous picture, you can see the descriptions for the lobster roll sushi and the tuna three ways sushi. We dove right into the lobster and I did not take a picture. Very large pieces of lobster, the best flavors were on the plate under the sushi roll rather than in the sidecar with extra sauce, etc.

Here is the tuna:

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This was all great, especially those little green peppers. Wanted more of those.

When the lobster roll came, we realized we would need more for the table based on the portion size. So we also ordered the steak flatbread.
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And then a fairly complex no sugar added dessert to split:

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That was some kind of layer of chocolate, some kind of layer of vanilla, scoop of coconut ice cream, some raspberry dust and berries, and I don't know what the liquid is on the right-hand side but it was not good. The rest was delightful.

P.S. the view from our seat:
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Tony the Tigger

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Overall, I rate the experience of the evening at 10. I got a little choked up during Wishes, especially thinking "We made it!" because I really didn't think that would happen.

I think everyone should see whatever fireworks show there is from that vantage point at least once.

The restaurant itself is very cool, our server was excellent, very attentive. They even straightened up our plates when we went to see the fireworks.

Rating just on food - and this is a little tricky knowing we intentionally did not order entrées – nothing was bad. We enjoyed it all. We did what we set out to do and tried different flavors and especially loved the drinks. But – I probably can't put this in our top 10 meals at Disney World. I know everybody loves it. I presume the filet mignon is excellent.

But when I think of the amazing meals we've had at signature restaurants like the old flying fish and the new Tiffins - it isn't close.

Perhaps a better comparison is our similar ordering style at paddlefish a couple of weeks ago. I think we enjoyed each dish there better than at CG.

To be fair, I tend to judge standard American fare harshly. I bet a lot of people love it for the reasons we didn't quite.

The atmosphere and the fireworks clearly put it over-the-top. I'm very glad we had that experience. I would be in no hurry to eat there again, and I'm glad I didn't save this dinner for September. It made me more certain that it's OK to repeat favorite restaurants during that special event, and I'm going to book accordingly!

This last thing – I passed a vehicle in the parking lot of the Caribbean Beach resort earlier that day and almost took a picture of it. I noticed the license plate and the stickers all over it. But I didn't take the picture. I thought maybe that was invasive to get someone's license plate.

When I saw the exact same vehicle walking from the California Grill back to our car, I had to!
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