Animaniac93-98
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People skip shows because most either do not have much replay value or they do not interest people. Disney Junior, for example, isn't going to appeal to groups where everyone is over the age of 6.
Exactly. I have seen Indiana Jones so many times, I really can't justify sitting through it, again. Freshening up a show and giving it new content/changes would go a long way in my eyes to changing the 1/2 day attitude.People skip shows because most either do not have much replay value or they do not interest people. Disney Junior, for example, isn't going to appeal to groups where everyone is over the age of 6.
That's the operative phrase. There's enough to do to fill the day, but people who visit frequently (i.e. most of us on this board) tend to know what they like best and skip a bunch of things.
I actually know people outside of the internet that didn't do all the attractions at all at some point.
What you have to understand is why they didn't. Any person that has a bad back, or any existing medical condition isn't going to go on all the rides plain and simple. The other thing is Disney has stuff that isn't for all ages. Stuff like Disney Junior isn't made for people that went to WDW for the first time ever if you are over the age of 6.
The problem with shows at DHS is Disney not updating them or change them over if you go to DHS at least 3 times your lifetime. The first time at DHS is fine, but how many you want to do for LMA is the issue.
Disney has shows over 20 years old without any changes, and that is the issue for a returning guest. That isn't a guest problem, but a Disney problem for not change or updating an attraction even once in over 20 years.
I posted this in another thread but it applies here:
Beauty and the Beast - 25 minutes
Citizens of Hollywood - 10 minutes
Disney Junior - 25 minutes
Fantasmic - 30 minutes
Frozen - 30 minutes
Indiana Jones - 30 minutes
LMA - 45 minutes
Mulch, Sweat & Shears - 30 minutes
Voyage of the Little Mermaid - 15 minutes
That's four hours of just shows. Assuming you'll be at Fantasmic about an hour early to get a good seat and at least a few minutes early for the other ones, that's another two hours. So six hours total. An average DHS operating day is twelve hours. You're already at 1/2 day and you haven't experienced Muppets, Star Tours, Tower, RnRC, Toy Story, or One Man's Dream yet.
Yeah, DHS is only a 1/2 day park when you skip half of the park. That's like complaining that a baseball game is only 90 minutes long because you left in the fifth inning.
I am very confused. i am also not very bright. I feel like I've done my share of visiting WDW, even having FL annual passes one year and going ALOT. With that being said i still feel like i have not done everything i could have. to the point that there has never been a day or park that i thought somewhere around 1, "i've done everything here and need to go!" AK and HS are said to be 1/2 day parks but i always find ways to fill an entire day there, and always want more. Please weigh in on your thoughts about Y or Y not half day parks. no need for heated discussions just really wanting some friendly opinions about this.
I posted this in another thread but it applies here:
Beauty and the Beast - 25 minutes
Citizens of Hollywood - 10 minutes
Disney Junior - 25 minutes
Fantasmic - 30 minutes
Frozen - 30 minutes
Indiana Jones - 30 minutes
LMA - 45 minutes
Mulch, Sweat & Shears - 30 minutes
Voyage of the Little Mermaid - 15 minutes
That's four hours of just shows. Assuming you'll be at Fantasmic about an hour early to get a good seat and at least a few minutes early for the other ones, that's another two hours. So six hours total. An average DHS operating day is twelve hours. You're already at 1/2 day and you haven't experienced Muppets, Star Tours, Tower, RnRC, Toy Story, or One Man's Dream yet.
Yeah, DHS is only a 1/2 day park when you skip half of the park. That's like complaining that a baseball game is only 90 minutes long because you left in the fifth inning.
I could argue MK is a one day park or really any theme park anywhere.Epcot is personal taste + kids.
Epcot used to be a park I could have spent a full week in happily, but today, Future World is a complete waste of the space it takes up (IMO). If I were going by myself, I'd hit SSE, then Living with the Land, wander WS, and be done. With the kids, I might get forced onto Nemo or Imagination as well, but both of those attractions don't take much time at all.
While I might be able to spend more time in World Showcase (depending on how much I want to spend on food and drink), the kids want no part of it unless they are playing Perry, which while entertaining for them, is not quite the way to really "see" each pavilion, so it typically turns into a bargain with them. We'll do 2 countries of Perry, then we'll see a few more without and we'll call it a day.
DHS it really depends on the kids moods. I could likely spend a full day there myself, maybe, but again, I'm not getting anywhere near ToT or RnRC with the kids (my oldest tried ToT once... once), and they typically don't want to sit through more than 1 of the shows. I can get good mileage out of TSMM, Star Tours, and Muppetvision 3D, but that ends up being a vast majority of it for us.
What each park has to offer makes all of them a "full day park". What the OP is asking about is when someone says it's a half-day park, why do they think so, because each park has enough offerings to make a full day if you see everything. I was answering what makes Epcot a 1/2 day park for me.I could argue MK is a one day park or really any theme park anywhere.
I understand we all have preferences, but your preference doesn't make it a half day park in my own personal opinion. Skipping The American Adventure is a huge miss, along with the Voices of Linerty. Sure, you've seen it before, but we all have. It's just too good of a show (the best on property for me) to just straight up miss.
Additionally, just totally skipping Energy, Test Track, Mission Space, and Imagination is just ridiculous, again in my opinion. You're just flat out not doing great attractions out of personal preference. That's fine, but it doesn't make EPCOT a half day park.
I've beaten the EPCOT needs a $1b transformation and tons of TLC, but what's there isn't just totally missable. Even Ellen's Energy Adventure is worth doing once and Test Track and Mission Space are pretty unique. Illuminations is also a great show that can't be skipped and a lot more time can be spent enjoying World Showcase.
I'd argue that if EPCOT is a half day park for you, you're just not a big EPCOT fan and you're done with what they have to offer. It could be so much more, but calling it a half day park is extreme.
The definition of half day should be that you're able to easily do all offerings in a half day, not just do what YOU like and leave. Even still, most of the fun is exploring, eating, and doing favorites multiple times.
I've run through Magic Kindom in its entirety in under a day, quite easily...including shows.
Again, these parks are about a mindset and going with the right intentions. If you want to criticize, skip entire areas, and say there isn't enough, you'll be right. If you want to do the things offered and try to enjoy your time, you will.
It all could be better but it's not to a point that half of everything at EPCOT or anywhere is missable.
Could not like this enough.I posted this in another thread but it applies here:
Beauty and the Beast - 25 minutes
Citizens of Hollywood - 10 minutes
Disney Junior - 25 minutes
Fantasmic - 30 minutes
Frozen - 30 minutes
Indiana Jones - 30 minutes
LMA - 45 minutes
Mulch, Sweat & Shears - 30 minutes
Voyage of the Little Mermaid - 15 minutes
That's four hours of just shows. Assuming you'll be at Fantasmic about an hour early to get a good seat and at least a few minutes early for the other ones, that's another two hours. So six hours total. An average DHS operating day is twelve hours. You're already at 1/2 day and you haven't experienced Muppets, Star Tours, Tower, RnRC, Toy Story, or One Man's Dream yet.
Yeah, DHS is only a 1/2 day park when you skip half of the park. That's like complaining that a baseball game is only 90 minutes long because you left in the fifth inning.
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