Discussion in 'Disneyland Resort' started by wdwmagic, Jul 23, 2016.
It would have looked a lot better up there.
You know what bugs me? The fact that the Observation is literally the recycled remains of the Rocket Jets.
Well it was suppose to be a lot better with the addition of a laser show and other effects. That all got cut. It would have still sucked though.
To me it looks like an enormous drum set.
Pretty much the same reason why Mission: Cash Grab is an eyesore to many. Even with a bad paint job, random pipes, satellite dishes and other low cost props it will never shake that it was once Tower Of Terror.
Thank you for taking the time to make some solid points. As I said earlier, this topic would make for a fun and interesting debate, and probably deserves its own thread.
Apology accepted. I apologize to you if I offended you in any way.
Are we talking about how Tower now looks like something from the 1998 Tomorrowland or something Count Dooku flew by on Coruscant?
Yeah but at least MB is still the same drop ride as before. The Observatron is nothing more than set dressing.
I don't think we should be discouraging simple whimsy. Set dressing had its place and the goal of the Observatron (when working) was to maintain some kinetics (something lacking in a lot of areas these days.)
Agreed, but leaving the spinner in place as a functioning ride would have easily accomplished that. It was unnecessary to build a new one and drop it at TL's entryway. Not only that the Observation's "performances" have always seemed pretty random. It's been years since I've actually seen it working.
IIRC, the Astro Obitor was suppose to go at the top of the tower like the Rocket Jets did before. However the mechanism was so heavy that the tower couldn't take the weight. Instead of structurally reinforcing the tower, they just put the Astro Obitor in the front of the land instead. That lack of structural reinforcing old buildings contributed to finally doing in the Rocket Rods.
Over on MiceChat, David Koenig's article indicates that Marvel Land is still a ways off:
After the Stars Wars land is completed, Fantasyland is going to be ‘refreshed.’ This is going to be the biggest rehab of the land since it was reopened in 1984. How much is going to change is unknown. However, don’t be surprised if we lose a classic attraction or two (Mr. Toad has missed the chopping block a lot of times; this time, it might not). It is going to be a high-tech makeover to bring [the land] into the 21st century.”
After the Fantasyland makeover, it will be Disney California Adventure’s turn with the formal start of an entire Marvel-themed land, which will consume a large chunk of Hollywood Land and the area around and behind Bugs Land. The Marvel Land will connect with Cars Land and don’t be surprised if Bugs Land is a casualty.
So if this is right, it's what; 4-5 years before Marvel gets going in earnest?
4-5 years of a really ugly tower and temporary cardboard overlays and then another 2-3 years of construction walls. Then we can talk about Tomorrowland!!!
This timeline doesn't make a ton of sense to me. SWL is set for late 2018/early 2019. That's when the hordes hit the park like nothing else we've seen. Disney needs to shift bodies to DCA and--individual feelings about Marvel put aside--a well executed Marvel land will help with that. Why stick a Fantasyland refresh between SWL and Marvel?
Does SWL add enough capacity to afford shutting down Fantasyland for a few years? It's not like they are smart enough to reduce the number of people they let into the park.
This timeline makes sense if you consider that MB was fast tracked to get an infusion of Marvel into DLR until they could design a more substantial themed land around it. Coming on the heels of the FLE in Florida and the TDL expansion it's likely the DL Fantasyland redo is farther along in development than Marvel. With all the WDI projects that have been in production over the past few years - from World of Avatar to Shanghai Disneyland to the two SW Lands - they have their hands full.
I said this in the other thread, the timeline doesn't make sense because it isn't accurate.
I mean we'll certainly know by July one way or the other. FL and Marvel should certainly overlap, but not sequential like the article implies. There technically is no real reason they can't start on FL, whatever it is they are doing with it, once all the island, train and Fantasmic are back online.
I doubt it. The two SWL attractions are both expected to be fairly low capacity (by E-ticket standards, at least). The land itself likely has a lot of space compared to what is typical for DL, but there doesn't seem to be enough total capacity to dramatically offset the loss of one of the other lands for a significant amount of time.
Ah, I just caught up on the other thread. Yeah I don't see why Disney would do things as stated in the article, but it wouldn't be the first time Disney had me scratching my head over their actions.
Mission Breakout didn't make sense to a lot of people, look where we are at now.
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