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Formal Night

Discussion in 'Disney Cruise Line' started by MotherofaPrincessLover, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. jaklgreen

    jaklgreen Well-Known Member

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    It's a theme like pirates night. Plus like I said, they want people to get their picture taken and buy the photos. Even on their website it even says on formal nights pictures will be taken.
     
  2. flynnibus

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    No I'm talking even outside the cruise. If you really believe what you said...

    Why have a dress code anywhere?
     
  3. jaklgreen

    jaklgreen Well-Known Member

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    This is not a dress code. Going by what even Disney is saying, it is an optional dress up night so that you can have some formal pictures taken, OPTIONAL!!! If it was a "dress code" then they would turn people away. It's like pirates night. Do you dress up like a pirate? Does it ruin your meal because others are not dressed like pirates? You really are far too concerned with what others are wearing. No one else cares, and it certainly not ruining people's meals.
     
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    Just my 2 cents..

    I think because it's listed as "recommended" and states "formal night", people are still considering it a dress code.

    As opposed to something like NCL where nothing is really "recommended", and they heavily promote their "freestyle" atmosphere.

    Like I said earlier in the thread though.. I think "formal" has been downgraded to "cocktail" by society as a whole, with black tie or white tie being optional unless formally stated by the cruise line, invitation, event etc. I'm glad of this.. I love wearing a gown- but very few and far between.lol
     
  5. flynnibus

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    Again I said outside Disney... if you believe what you said about what others doing or not... why have dress codes at fine dining establishments, theatres, etc?
     
  6. jaklgreen

    jaklgreen Well-Known Member

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    But what Disney cruise line has is not a dress code, it is an optional theme night. Their actual dress code that they enforce is no swimsuits.
     
  7. flynnibus

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    I'm not talking about what Disney says.. I'm talking about what YOU SAID... ignore Disney Cruise Lines and what they do. I'm talking about your opinion towards dress and what it means in social spaces.
     
  8. jaklgreen

    jaklgreen Well-Known Member

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    We are talking about the Disney cruise. I am not getting into some philosophical debate about what people wear in every single situation. We would be here for years doing that.
     
  9. AJH219

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    In today's age, formal wear does not have to cost a fortune nor does it have to be limited to bulky attire. You can get a nice pair of navy/black/khaki slacks and a button down at decent stores like Gap or Old Navy for a reasonable price. Disney SHOULD enforce it especially since they have such high class dining option on the ship. Like others have said, if you can't be bothered to dress up, go down to the fast-casual area. I couldn't imagine going into Tiana's Place dressed in shorts, a tee, and flip-flops :eek:
     
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  10. flynnibus

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    It's not about 'every single situation' - it's about your comment dismissing the significance of how one person's dress impacts the experience of others. You said "This is ludicrous to think that someone wearing slacks and a polo instead of a suit and tie has any impact on other diners"

    So if you believe the actions of others is completely irrelevant to the experience of others... that's why I said Why even bother with Dress code at other locations if it's so ludicrous in your opinion that actions of one person impact another.
     
  11. jaklgreen

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    There is a difference between someone's actions, which I consider to be what they are physically doing, and what someone is wearing. People are not wearing swimwear, or shirts with offensive sayings, graphics, etc. I don't care if someone is wearing shorts or capri pants or khakis, it does not affect me at all. You can have a person in a suit and tie acting like a fool, that would affect me and others, but wearing khaki shorts and a polo instead of a suit should not have any affect on anyone especially on the Disney cruise where it clearly states that it is optional. I can see people looking at someone funny if they go to some black tie gala and they are not dressed up, but this is not the case. And either way, what someone else is wearing really should not bother a person that much. If it ruins your whole meal, then that is on you. Lighten up.
     
  12. jaklgreen

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    Tiana's place is one of the rotations dining rooms. So every other night that is not "formal" night people are in there wearing cruise casual clothing. Disney is not enforcing this because over the years the guests have spoken up about not wanting to have to dress up. This is a casual family cruise line, not the QM2.
     
  13. AJH219

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    And its a shame Disney is pulling back on the enforcement. You should be required to dress up or be turned away, plain and simple
     
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    So again... based on your logic, it is pointless to have a Dress Code anywhere... just behave.. because as you say, what other people wear shouldn't bother you. Yet, we still have convention and dress code at many different types of locations, events, etc. Be it the theater, fine dining, weddings, funerals, business functions, etc. Dress... is part of the atmosphere and usually associated with the level of respect for the event/location/audience. If you can't accept that... I don't know what you think is going on around you in those spaces.

    And if you can accept that dress is part of association with atmosphere and event/location/audience... then you might start to realize why formal night and the loss or lack of endorsement.. is an issue for people who do want it.
     
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    For the record, a suit and tie is not "formal." Formal means white tie. Semi-formal means tuxedo. Informal means a business suit and tie. Anything less is casual.
     
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  18. jaklgreen

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    But we are just talking about the DISNEY CRUISE! Not every single event on the planet. I know there are dress codes for other events and locations that should be followed. But on the cruise where it clearly states that it is optional so that you can have a formal picture taken, it does not matter. Why are you making such a big deal about this? The amount of energy that you are expending being so concerned about what a person 3 tables down from you is wearing on a family cruise is nuts. You are going to give your self a heart attack stressing over someone's khaki pants. It's stupid. For you to say that it ruins your meal is really extreme.
     
  19. flynnibus

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    No I was talking about how you justified your position by arguing what other people wear should have no impact on your experience.

    So what people wear does impact other people.... and isn't just ludicrous

    So you can agree people might actually care... and be against disney's sliding standards
     
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  20. Disney Lover Addie

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    Don't feel like you have to dress up like you are going to the Met Gala. I once saw a kid wearing an Elsa costume and no one even batted an eye.
     

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