Actually, I ignored Coke, Apple, Lego and Dior, all of which are just as well known....
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Disney Springs Plans: What do they mean?
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Actually, I ignored Coke, Apple, Lego and Dior, all of which are just as well known....
Considering where these plans came from, what they show and the level of development, I'm confident enough to say that this is the direction Disney is going.
No trolleys.
No I-4 work, which would naturally include the state and county government's involvement. Frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to see either. They look to be pouring way too much money into this as is. Funny, UNI built City Walk and while there have been places that have come and gone, they have never needed to fundamentally go in and alter the place.
Again, say what you want about Disney being incredibly cheap (because they are), but they sure don't mind spending billions when it comes to a giant datamining/trip planning/back of the house IT system, redoing a mall into ... well ... a mall and building countless hotel rooms and timeshares.
They just seem to have no conception of why any of that stuff exists to begin with. ... You know the four stale theme parks?
raven
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And what do you know about each of the others?
articos
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Observatory will not be the Edison space.
I wish the old Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton was still Trader Vic's. The new one is a shadow of the original.
This is the first step in opening up the footprint to expansion in general, including the possibility of another entertainment district in the future. There are spaces in this plan that allow for 21+ after dark, giving options for adults. It's not PI, but it's a start.
This is one of the inevitabilities of building out a retail zone with outside vendors - eventually, over 5-20 years, it's going to be the same stores as what you have at home. That's why the idea of the Village was unique originally, but times have changed. Now we have world-wide chain stores. Those didn't exist in the 60s/70s.
No, it looks like an outdoor/indoor lifestyle shopping and dining center like the Americana in Glendale or a cheaper version of The Grove in LA.
Guess what? They're both VERY nice places. They're also at their heart -- malls.
That is what DD is today ... just one with a strong reliance on Disney owned shops and merchants and third party reliance on dining.
Outside of their worldwide familiarity?
I've seen nothing to prove that having this structure will improve a parking fiasco that is GREATLY exaggerated by the fact no one wants to park further down than AMC or Splitsville and 90% of people want to be in front of WoD!
raven
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Ha. Nice way around that one.
Apparently TDO views it the same way....
I have it. It was passed on to me. I am not sharing it. Although I've been told that our old pal Tom WannaBe Lou Corless has (not apparently looking for any work with Disney in the future after the problems he caused with MM+ release) basically put them out ... so even though he has been spouting hate toward MAGIC (as usual), his site has the plans out.
Just a guess, but soon.
This SADLY is the big project splash they want to make as both SW and UNI open MAJOR attractions this summer and Disney has nothing. I would be very surprised (based on the plans I've seen and the folks I've talked to) if there isn't an announcement before the end of spring.
The Empress Lilly
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Cool, I've never been to a mall with shops and restaurants and water features before!
Raven, after all this time you should know that my negativity about this news is by no means directed at you, or any other messenger. But rather the inability, unwillingness, or both of Disney to offer up much more for WDW than another means for its guests to spend their money. Instead of perhaps taking the radical concept of bringing more rides and attractions into all of the parks. But my reaction to this news was never personally directed towards you.
lazyboy97o
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This is the problem with Disney's obsession with story and decoration. All this flash that will likely mean little, and what little it does mean will wither away as the shop lineup changes. Downtown Disney does not need ridiculous back stories, it needs honesty, heart and direction. The Village remains successful because it was so well designed for its purpose, not gussied up with extra nonsense. The Village is a masterpiece that has survived decades of fads and changing mall design standards.
WDI absolutely is involved. They are the ones who came up with the typical ridiculous backstory (because really, why can't a lifestyle complex be exactly that?!)
But there is nothing groundbreaking in this. It should be very nice, but I'd argue that DD is very nice now and that WDW has far greater needs.
Hard to say, but I don't think it will be an eyesore type deal. I doubt you'll see it from most of SS.
Hyperion Wharf was haulted because they decided to revamp the entire DTD area rather than just PI. Along with the West Side and Disney Shopping Villiage, new areas will be called things like Gateway, The Landing, The Springs and Town Center.
Plenty of new restaurants with their own entertainment is in the plans and some outdoor entertainment for everyone to enjoy. A large parking structure will free up space for more room to grow. Here are a few retail and food vendors they are looking into at the moment but as always, things can change.
Can't help but notice how many are either generic or Disney or just space fillers ... 'Italian Restaurant' ... 'Walt's Place' ... ''Disney Burger' ...you wonder how many of these were just tossed out as concepts. They're going to have a lot of space to fill in a BAD retail market. And as much as I do NOT want to see more Disney locations, I fear we may get them.
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