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Did Walt steal the idea of mickey

Discussion in 'Walt Disney: The Man Behind the Mouse' started by Dizneyworld4430, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. John

    John Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure what year it was but Ub finally came back to work for Walt. Walt loved his freind dearly. Most of the early works....yes were created by UB. In the early Walt was the master mind and Ub brought his ideas to life. Walt always had a million things running through his head. Ub brought them to paper. After returning to the Walt Disney company Walt treated Ub like one of the family. I am not sure how in a monetary form he was treated but I suspect Walt remembered what his contribution was. What has bothered me is that Ub is nearly mentioned anywhere in the parks. Its possible without his early contributions the Disney company wouldnt be what it is today.


    It all started with a mouse.....but it was Ub who originally drew the mouse.....and no Walt didnt steal Mickey....Ub worked for Walt and Walt owned the properties as did Uni when Walt worked for them. The concept of Mickey was Walts and the charecter that you see on paper was a creation of Ub's. Walt was a creative genious his time was cut short, he never had enough time in the day to do what he wanted to do. He was very demanding, also very critical of the people who worked for him. It was quality....quality! Thats why we as fans and guest of WDW are not wrong for demanding the very best from the Disney co. and WDW specifically.
     
  2. Sassagoula-Rvr

    Sassagoula-Rvr Well-Known Member

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    Without Universal "stealing" Oswald...the disney company might never have become what it is today...it was after that point that Walt decided to do everything in house and really expand.
     
  3. Goofyernmost

    Goofyernmost Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought here but since Universal used some pretty strong arm twisting tactics to get Oswald away from Walt, without any remorse or concern, wouldn't it seem logical that if they thought that Mickey was just a rip off of Oswald they would have taken legal action against him if what he did was illegal?

    Besides that when you say...well, he looks exactly like Oswald except that he has small round ears, a more pointed nose, a thin tail instead of a bushy one, then aren't you saying he is the exact copy because he has a round head, two eyes and the same basic body design. Not really the same thing is it. Some things are basic design and I'd be willing to bet that at the time that was pretty standard for all cartoon characters.
     
  4. Tonka's Skipper

    Tonka's Skipper Well-Known Member

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    Totally correct.:D

    Seems a mouse is nothing like a rabbit or a cat!

    As I remember Oswald was created by Walt and his small studio of the time. When Walt headed to New York to renew the cartoon contract with the theater owner in New York, he was told that he did not *own Oswald* and that the theater owner had hired most of Walt's cartoonist away.

    On the train ride west.............Walt came up with Mortimer the Mouse and his wife Suggested Mickey.............thus was born....MICKEY MOUSE
     
  5. Alyssa hope

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    You probably won't believe me but my great-grandfather invented Mickey. Only his creation was Mick-E. When my grandfather went to New York and met Walt. Torrence diets (my grandfather) was going to give Walt the character through the stock market and get paid by it but the stock market crashed and somehow or another Walt got the mouse. Then claimed it was his. If you don't believe me my uncle wrote a book about it called "the broken toy". Look it up if you want. My grandma (my great grandpas daughter) played with little bendable Mick-E's As a kid. She even gave me one
     
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    CAPTAIN HOOK Well-Known Member

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    What's up Doc ???
     
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  7. Nick Wilde

    Nick Wilde Well-Known Member

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    Have you been reading The Hollywood Dark Prince? Naughty, naughty!
     
  8. Nick Wilde

    Nick Wilde Well-Known Member

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    No. Ub did not create Mickey and Walt said "Oh, that looks cool! Let's keep it and I'll take all the credit for it!" Walt created Mickey on a napkin while on a train ride. He brought it to Ub and Ub basically just made copies of it, and they made him into a cartoon character. Walt didn't rip-off Ub and take all the credit for it, as everyone may think. Has anyone here seen One Man's Dream?
     
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    Nick Wilde Well-Known Member

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    I want to see where you read this. I believe you, I'm just curious.
     
  10. Magenta Panther

    Magenta Panther Well-Known Member

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    It came from this book about Tex Avery, written by Joe Adamson:

    http://www.parkablogs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=492

    The book is still available on Amazon, but it has a different cover.
     
  11. John

    John Well-Known Member

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    Where did it mention in my post that I said Ub created Mickey? Not only have I been to "one Mans dream" many times I have read many biographies of Walt.....maybe you should too. I know the story of Mickey, Walt's wife named him. No where in my post did I mention Mickey. Again, Ub Iworks played a HUGE roll in the development of the Disney company.
     
  12. lazyboy97o

    lazyboy97o Well-Known Member

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    Walt could barely draw Mickey and development may well have started before the train ride. That also means there was no surprise over not owning Oswald.
     
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    Although Mickey can be said to look like Oswald, it does not nessacarily mean he "copied" Oswald. This could just be his drawing style, as he created Oswald. Either way he did not steal Mickey as it was an original idea and he created Oswald anyways.
     
  14. blana

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    Honestly, I'd say it was probably someone who watched the Drunk History version of the Walt Disney/Ub Iwerks story.
     

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