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Considering Renting from a DVC Member?

Discussion in 'Disney Vacation Club' started by DVC Mike, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. DVC Mike

    DVC Mike Active Member

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    There are some good threads on this board and others, as well as postings from various members that say some great things. I'd like to post this updated summary of things to consider -- targeted for all those potential renters out there. I'd also like to thank all the folks I've plagiarized in putting this together!
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    There are two ways you can stay in a “Disney Deluxe Villa Resort” (Disney Vacation Club Villa):
    • Call WDW reservations (aka CRO), just like any other resort, and book a villa at a Disney Deluxe Villa Resort
    • Rent points from a Disney Vacation Club (DVC) member
    Disney allows the general public to book DVC units at rack rates through its regular resort reservations system, when available. Renting points from a DVC member is a much better deal, as it typically costs much less to rent from a DVC member than to book a DVC resort direct from Disney.

    If you do decide to rent points from a DVC member, there are a few things you should be aware of so that your experience is nothing less than magical.

    While commonly referred to as “renting points”, you are actually paying a DVC member to make a reservation in your name with some of the points they own as DVC members.

    Keep in mind that this is a private transaction between two people, and Disney is not involved in any way. If anything goes wrong, you can’t complain to Disney or expect them to resolve any problem. To repeat this very important fact: All transactions are between private individuals as negotiated between themselves. Disney will not get involved in any transaction problems or disputes.

    Until you physically check-in, the DVC owner controls the reservation, even when it is in your name. An unscrupulous owner could potentially cancel your reservation and steal your money, and Disney will not get involved. Also, someone could pose as a DVC owner just to get your cash. This risk is what gets you the big discount, and renting is not for everyone. Renting points takes some work ahead of time to protect yourself and minimize the potential risk of these types of transactions.

    That said, fraud almost never occurs in DVC rentals, as reported instances of fraud occurring are extremely rare. Thousands of successful rental transactions have been completed throughout the history of the DVC program, and the savings are obvious.

    We don't often see problematic DVC rentals, and when we do they are usually due to misunderstandings between the DVC owner and the renter. Unfortunately, a lot of those misunderstandings come from lack of knowledge about how DVC works and how that differs from a traditional hotel reservation -- or a DVC reservation made through Disney CRO, for that matter.

    You would think that the DVC owners all have perfect understanding of their accounts, and it's the people renting reservations who don't get it. You'd be dead wrong. Too often, neither party really understands the situation well enough to be able to anticipate problem areas. That’s why it’s important to rent points from a DVC member who has done it before. Take some time yourself to get educated on how DVC works before looking to “rent points”.


    Please use due diligence before entering into any agreement and certainly before sending any payment. Renting points requires trust on both sides of the agreement, but even with trust there is a need for you to do some due diligence and common sense checking before sending off your money to a total stranger.
    • Ask for references from the DVC member who is renting the points, and check their references. Good references show that a DVC member has had successful rentals in the past, and is knowledgeable about the DVC program. You are more likely to have a miscommunication with a DVC member who is renting their points for the first time.
    • Don't rent from any “member” who has only made a few posts on a rental forum. It could be an indicator of a scam. Review past posts for the person you are working with so you can get an idea what type of person they may be.
    • Get the owner's full name, home address and home phone number before sending any payment. To the extent possible, confirm that the information is valid.
    • Confirm that the person is, in fact, a DVC owner by running a search at the Florida Comptroller's Office web site (this site only reports owners of WDW DVC resorts).
    • There should be a written contract or letter of agreement, signed by both of you, spelling out exactly what the rental will cost, when payment is due, dates of the stay, etc.
    • Never pay a total stranger by using a "cash equivalent" such as Western Union or money order.
    In summary: never, ever send money to anyone until you have confirmed their true identify and that they are, in fact, a DVC member, and you have a written agreement. If something sounds "off," don't proceed. It's not worth taking the risk. Any DVC deal that seems too good to be true most likely is.


    Also, please keep in mind the following important points:
    • Be aware that the Disney Vacation Club will not speak with renters or give them any information. They won't take a room request from you; they won't confirm you have a reservation; and they won't make Magical Express arrangements for you. Only DVC owners can speak with DVC about reservations. Any changes and any additions like the Dining Plan or Magical Express will have to be made through Member Services by the owner. You will pay for the Disney Dining Plan during check-in at the resort. You can make your own dining reservations through the Disney dining number. Park tickets cannot be purchased through the DVC member. You can purchase your tickets on your own.
    • DVC is a timeshare and not a hotel. A DVC reservation is very different from a regular hotel reservation and the limitations / restrictions / penalties on the owner may make cancellation and rescheduling difficult or impossible. Those problems vary from owner to owner, from rental to rental, and you have no way of knowing what kind of restrictions the owner is under. If you get in a position where you have to cancel a rented reservation, the owner may not be able to help you. Many owners have a “no cancellation/no changes/no refunds” policy. Be sure you fully understand what will happen if your plans change. That is critical, and if you are not comfortable with the answer, a DVC rental is probably not for you. DVC rentals do not work well for people whose plans are not firmly set. You'll have much better cancellation policies when booking through Disney’s CRO than renting points.
    • You will probably need a much larger deposit and have to pay in full much earlier when renting points than with using Disney CRO. You may need to pay with a cashiers check instead of being able to use your credit card.
    • You do not get daily maid service when you rent from a DVC member (while you do get daily maid service if you make the reservation through Disney CRO). You get your trash emptied and new towels on day 4 of a vacation, and if you stay 8 or more nights, on day 4 you get a full cleaning, and day 8 would be the trash & towel service.
    • While you will receive all the standard perks of staying onsite (Magical Express, Extra Magic Hours, etc.), please be aware than renters typically do not get to take advantage of DVC member perks such as discounts, free valet parking, etc.
    • The DVC system is complex and takes some time to understand, and many rental difficulties or misunderstandings are from good people with good intentions, who misunderstand the subtleties of the system.
    I hope the above information is helpful to everyone considering renting points from a DVC member.


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  2. KoOlinaIsHome

    KoOlinaIsHome New Member

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    This is great advice! Renting DVC can be a good thing or a bad thing. Making sure you know the risks, consequences, things to avoid etc. can ensure things go more smoothly when dealing with the party renting the vacation home.
     
  3. DVC Mike

    DVC Mike Active Member Original Poster

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    I just wanted to add that I don't think it's a very good idea to "rent points" from an ad that someone has posted on such general sites as Ebay or Craigslist.

    Instead, it's best to rent from someone you know (such as a friend) or perhaps someone you know right here at WDWMAGIC.

    If you can't find anyone that way, then I would suggest checking the popular rental forums at MouseOwners.com or DisBoards. However, I would check out other posts from a member to see what type of person they are before renting from them.
     
  4. KevGuy

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    Great post Mike!!:sohappy: I would second Mike's suggestion of MouseOwners.com as opposed to others for renting. The folks there are great and very experienced at renting, heck even people the TUG forums which is a general timeshare board that is not DVC related recommend them in a post I read there today as well. The Dis boards are good too but a lot of traffic flows through there so I would be careful of who you deal with and go with Mike's suggestion of someone who has more than a few basic posts. Problems are usually few and far between but nightmares can and do happen. None so far that I've heard of at MouseOwners though, so I would start there if I was doing it.
     
  5. John53

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    How do I go about renting either from David's dvc rentals,or a private member?
     
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    EOD K9 Well-Known Member

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    I've rented to people on here who have been established members with a history of posts. We haven't had any issues.
     
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  7. Tk0021

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    This is a great post. We are planning a trip in September 2017. We are looking at renting from a friend at cost but he does not have enough points left over for a 2 bedroom or 2 rooms as my parents are going with us on this trip. We are planning to rent enough points from our friend and then renting points by using DVC Rental Store.

    Any advise as this is our first time renting points
     
  8. dreamfinder

    dreamfinder Well-Known Member

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    May want to break this off into it's own thread for more eyeballs.

    Depends on how short they are on points. They can "purchase" a handful of one time use points from DVD (I think it's 15?) so that may be an option if they are close. Are you talking about 2 sets of adults? Or judging from your profile pic family of 4 plus 2 grandparents? I would suggest running the numbers to see how many points are needed for the various room combos. You could get away with 2 studios, or a 1br and 1 studio, or a 2br. Having either the 1 br or 2br would give you the full kitchen, plus in room laundry which might be a benefit. A 2br should cost less points than a 1BR and Studio, but depending on how many points your friend has exactly may actually make it cost more when you factor in the costs of the broker. Personally, I'd lean towards doing a split stay, X nights in a 2BR using your friends points, and then jump to a new resort for the rest of the trip in a 2BR using rented points. Slight chance of getting to stay in the same room if they are at the same resort, but I'd take the opportunity to see a second resort myself.
     
  9. Tk0021

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    Thanks for your feedback. I was not very clear in my post. We will be a family of 6, me, my wife, our two girls and my parents. Our friends only have enough points for us to get a studio in OKW or Boardwalk and even with that they are borrowing on next year and I don't want to push our luck with them. I want to remain friends after all. We are leining with the two studio rooms and I agree with what you said about the two resorts and I would like to do that but I know my parents will think moving from one resort to another would be a pain even they Disney does it for you.
     

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