cdunbar
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I'm sorry, what?
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Another Bus Crash 4/3
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I'm sorry, what?
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Do you seriously think that Disney doesn't put people where they want them? If they didn't want 80 year olds driving buses, they would find a way to locate them in other positions in the parks and resorts.
I don't know, I might take a cue from Bubble Boy. That seemed to work pretty well.
It's official, I'm swimming!
Rob562
Well-Known Member
As someone said earlier, if the State of Florida issues him a CDL license, and he properly passes all training and other test requirements (and possibly health requirements, I don't know the specifics of the training and employment requirements) set up by Disney, there is nothing Disney can do to remove him from the role.
-Rob
TimNRA757
Member
Right I understand that. It's like the airlines have a mandatory retirement age of 65, but you can be a commercial pilot (135-charter operations) pilot as long as you pass your medicals too so I know there's not much you can do about it... In fact there was a 78 year old not too long ago I know of who got his flight instructor certificate!
The Mouse
Member
that isn't even similar, there are way more buses hence a greater probability of accidents
I was comparing two modes of transportation, Disney buses (as a collective) and my car. It's a valid comparison because my car is the only car I would use. I could end up on any of Disney's buses. And in the past week, they've had more accidents than my car ever has, making my car statistically safer. You basically helped prove my point.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That's totally wrong. You have to take it on a person by person case.
Some 80 y.o.'s are just as capable as you are at most things.
Some 60 y.o.'s are senile. :shrug:
hrcollectibles
Active Member
I think its time the State of Florida gets a little more stringent on license renewels.. The driver of the bus that started it all was 81!!
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
81? They shouldn't let youngsters drive those things.
Wilt Dasney
Well-Known Member
If you compared the relative number of passengers hauled and miles covered between your car and Disney buses, I doubt your car would come out too far ahead, statistically speaking. In fact, if you've ever had a crash anytime in your driving history, Disney buses might beat your car when all those variables are averaged out.
That doesn't mean Disney should just invoke the law of averages and refuse to take a hard look at their transportation operations in light of what appears to be a potentially alarming trend (even if you discount Thursday's incident as a freak accident). I'm just trying to point out that using statistics might not be as favorable a comparison as you'd think, if the math is handled correctly.
floridabill
New Member
What about those of us who fly???:shrug: I don't want to rent a car for a week or 2 so by stopping the service what then??
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Stick your thumb out and hope for the best.
hrcollectibles
Active Member
see my post above yours
I see that but I do think that as people age their reflexes aren't what they used to be.. Then again you have people in the 70's and 80's who have never been in an accident but have caused quite a few
Wilt Dasney
Well-Known Member
Disney isn't going to eliminate the bus service. Considering how badly they want people spending their whole vacations on property, the chance of there being no buses to keep those people from renting cars (cars that can also take them to Universal after they leave Epcot) is probably somewhere around zero.
Also consider that the biggest problems people cite with these buses anymore have to do with them being too full, making too many stops, taking too long to arrive, etc. Basically the complaints boil down to the bus system being too popular with guests and Disney being unwilling to meet that popularity with more buses making quicker trips. The response to that kind of "problem" (and believe me, I sympathize) isn't getting rid of the system altogether.
Also consider that the biggest problems people cite with these buses anymore have to do with them being too full, making too many stops, taking too long to arrive, etc. Basically the complaints boil down to the bus system being too popular with guests and Disney being unwilling to meet that popularity with more buses making quicker trips. The response to that kind of "problem" (and believe me, I sympathize) isn't getting rid of the system altogether.
love disney
Active Member
Well, I have tried to stay out of the recent bus accident conversations but have a question, and please only give me facts, not speculation or I heard from so-and-so that heard from so-and-so or heard from someone who works there that said...
Does anyone actually know what Disney's training and safety regiment for bus drivers really is? There is so much speculation and blame that this is Disney's fault, so I am curious as to if anyone knows their policies? Obviously the drivers have to pass the State of Florida's licensing requirements, but what else does Disney (or the driver's union for that matter) require? Perhaps there is very stringent training and these accidents have been the result of individuals being careless, not paying attention, etc. and not a result of lack of training on Disney's part.
(Also, in response to the person who asked who has taken a trip recently and not had to wait 45 minutes on a bus, perhaps I have just been lucky but I would fall in that category. I have done 6 trips in the last year and a half and only once waited 45 minutes, and that was to get picked up from DTD.)
Let's all just hope and pray that this is the last accident for a long, long, long time!
Does anyone actually know what Disney's training and safety regiment for bus drivers really is? There is so much speculation and blame that this is Disney's fault, so I am curious as to if anyone knows their policies? Obviously the drivers have to pass the State of Florida's licensing requirements, but what else does Disney (or the driver's union for that matter) require? Perhaps there is very stringent training and these accidents have been the result of individuals being careless, not paying attention, etc. and not a result of lack of training on Disney's part.
(Also, in response to the person who asked who has taken a trip recently and not had to wait 45 minutes on a bus, perhaps I have just been lucky but I would fall in that category. I have done 6 trips in the last year and a half and only once waited 45 minutes, and that was to get picked up from DTD.)
Let's all just hope and pray that this is the last accident for a long, long, long time!
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I've got the perfect solution.
Everyone parks outside of the property. There will be ABSOLUTELY no other means of transportation allowed on property except what is offered by Disney. No bikes, no cars, no outside operated buses, no limos, no taxis, etc.
All transportation personnel will be aged 26-30. After that age they will be taken to the back of the WDW property and summarily assassinated as they have no further use to society as we know it.
Everyone parks outside of the property. There will be ABSOLUTELY no other means of transportation allowed on property except what is offered by Disney. No bikes, no cars, no outside operated buses, no limos, no taxis, etc.
All transportation personnel will be aged 26-30. After that age they will be taken to the back of the WDW property and summarily assassinated as they have no further use to society as we know it.