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A Spirited Valentine ...

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by WDW1974, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. CaptainAmerica

    CaptainAmerica Well-Known Member

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    To be clear, we're talking characters a la "live action Lion King." That does NOT mean animated Simba. Live action Lion King characters are, for all intents and purposes, live animals.

    I feel the same way about characters in Small World. If they're done up in Mary Blair style, who cares if one of the dolls is dressed like Moana?
     
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  2. HMF

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    Eisner (in spirit) never really left. His handpicked successor (Iger) has continued to use his playbook for the last decade. As for another Save Disney, there are no longer any Disney Family members left in the higher-ups of the company to lead it and WED Miller seems content with running the Family Museum, and no one in the company (I know of) charismatic enough to pull it off. The closest would probably be John Lasseter and there is no way he would be risking that since he is apparently on thin ice for fighting to make Cars Land .as good as it is.
     
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  3. flynnibus

    flynnibus Well-Known Member

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    This seems to fit here..

     
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    But Roy is no longer with use.
     
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  5. Tahu

    Tahu Well-Known Member

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    Live-Action Lion King characters would be animated though. Basically the same photo-real CG look as the recent Jungle Book.
    But the thing is, the new Jungle Book already draws a lot of inspiration from The Lion King as it is. The way they adapted the original Mowgli's Brothers story was basically going full Lion King with it what with Khan seizing control of the wolf pack after killing Akela and the climax of the film ending in fire. So the photorealistic CG Lion King is not only an unnecessary retread of a classic that's aiming to be enough of a copy to keep James Earl Jones, but Jon Favreau has basically already remade the Lion King anyways. But I think that's veering a little off-topic.

    I feel that the issue people have with characters in Small World is that the characters keep taking center stage with individual song tracks calling attention to themselves rather then just being more faces in the crowd. There's nothing wrong with having these fairy tales show up in their different countries seeing as we've always had Don Quixote in Spain, but they should be handled with a little more subtlety.
     
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  6. JoeCamel

    JoeCamel Well-Known Member

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    That is the funniest thing I have seen in ages. Just like reading these boards - they hit all the triggers.
     
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  7. lazyboy97o

    lazyboy97o Well-Known Member

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    I think it goes way beyond just doing what they think kids will like. There has long been a line of thought that views what is now known as themed entertainment as anything from lowly, crass, carny commercialism to outright evil. It is a line of thought that comes from many of the same types of places as Disney's leadership has since the 1980s.
     
  8. DznyRktekt

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    When I was a lad, if I had told my parents that I didn't like a nighttime spectacular at a Disney park or I was board at WDW, I think they would have looked at me with disbelief and then I don't know what would have happened.
     
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  9. TalkingHead

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    I can see kids enjoying the trails, Safari, and entertainment.

    But you tell me how many of the under-5 crowd enjoy Dinosaur, Everest, Kali, Bug's Life, Primeval Whirl, and Avatar. That's most of the rides in the park.

    Maybe the concern is because all of the trails and entertainment shut down at night leaving a bunch of stuff that doesn't appeal to pre-K kids. But that's just a sign of poor long-term planning.
     
  10. rushtest4echo

    rushtest4echo Well-Known Member

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    We all agree that AK could use a smaller ride or two to really fill out the park once Avatar is done. It'll also address the need for more kid-friendly stuff once night set in and the animal stuff closes.

    Just build my Jungle Book dark ride between Africa and Asia and I'll be happy. Make it traditional, lower cost and about 5-6 minutes long. That's all I want. Something like Mermaid (yes I know, it's like the worst thing Disney's ever done /s). I'd be ecstatic to see Disney doing things on a little scale again dark ride wise.
     
  11. Angel Ariel

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    My 4 year old would love Primeval Whirl, if she were allowed to ride it. With a height requirement of 48", though, that's not going to happen for a while yet (She only 41"). Everest is also not an option, for height..same with Dinosaur. My 6 y/I nephew loved Everest, and I have no doubt that the 3 y/o nephew would have loved it if he'd been allowed to ride it (he's always been a risk taker). If not at 3, definitely at 4. None of them would have had issues with Kali, and the height requirement there is only 38".

    The Navi river ride is supposed to be a family friendly ride in Avatar. I doubt we'll have any issue taking DD on that either when it opens.

    No one is saying that everything in AK is kid friendly. It's not. There should be a balance in all parks. But to say it doesn't appeal to the preK age at all is also wrong.
     
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    There are times when I really want to punch the suits at Disney in the face, and this is one of them. I'm no fan of Cars the Movies, but Carsland is amazing. Lasseter showed the true spirit of Walt when he fought to make it so. I wish he were in charge of the parks. He used to work at Disneyland, after all, and I bet a bunch of the penny-pinchers in the Disney organization have never even visited there. The Disney company may be successful, but it still makes me sad. And mad. Sometimes.
     
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  13. CaptainAmerica

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    You're conflating "rides" with "things to do." They're not the same thing. Disney is at its best when they're giving you things to do that aren't rides, IMO.
     
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    I tend to agree with you most of the time, but Animal Kingdom is the doldrums for those under 6 at night. Especially at a park where you can comfortably do all of the rides/shows during the day. Most of the shows are done well before sundown, and unless someone specifically stops the kiddies from riding stuff during the day in order to "save it" for evening when the Animal trails and shows are closed, then their kids are going to be bored to tears at night. Live music probably isn't going to help, and Avatar probably won't do a lot either. Then again, this same issue is present at EPCOT and DHS.
     
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    At night, I would agree. The comment that Captain America and I were both originally responding to was not limiting the comments about nothing for preK age to do to nighttime, though. It's only recently that AK's consistently been open late enough for the shows ending/animal exhibits closing to significantly affect the experience for the rest of the time the park is open.
     
  16. CaptainAmerica

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    "Under 6 at night" is a VERY specific complaint when you consider that the park has only been open at night for a few months in the first place. I'm not sure why you don't think Avatar and live music would help. They'll help in two ways. First, it'll give people something to do at nighttime. Second, it'll give people more to do in the day time so they're waiting until nighttime to do other things.
     
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    Animaniac93-98 Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of DVC, has there ever been plans to put a bunch of Grand Villas on Discovery Island? That seems like the kind of thing Disney would do now.
     
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    The costs involved seem prohibitive. No way I would want to own there
     
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    I'm no expert on these things. I was told there would be no math. Here is where I read the 86% figure:

    http://dvcnews.com/index.php/resort...galows?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
     
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  20. HauntedPirate

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    The "Disney Princess" branding may be considered a mistake by some, but it's made ridiculous amounts of money.

    I cannot equate Eisner to Iger at all. Eisner, for all his post-Wells and post-heart attack flaws, still had a passion for the parks and could be found in the parks even when there wasn't a press conference or event to attend. I was firmly in the #SaveDisney corner, as Eisner was his own worst enemy by that point, but Iger became the "be careful what you wish for" worst nightmare scenario. All nice and smiles to start, coupled with the acquisition of Pixar, only to show his true colors a couple of years later. You'd have to drag his cold, dead corpse into a park to find him in a park if there isn't a press junket, let alone have him be in a park without a horde of handlers. He embodies "living in an ivory tower".

    I agree. There are many other places that would be more conducive to DVC development. Besides, building there would ruin all the lore and legend of the abandoned Discovery Island. ;)
     
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