Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by WDW1974, Mar 18, 2017.
Please no Iron Man. Please no Iron Man. Wait, they can't do that in Florida anyway right?
We skipped BatB and Indy this time around - same old same old
The problem is not the quantity, but how dated they are. Look at Animal Kingdom for instance, spacious walkways, excellent theming, great spread out E-tickets, and 2 fantastic shows. I would personally never go to Hollywood Studios if it didn't have Tot & TSMM, and in a few years I guess Battle Escape. Even with those the park is lacking.
I'm kind of glad the Marvel contract forces them to use the more "obscure" ones like Guardians or Doctor Strange. Though of course they have to shoehorn Guardians where it doesn't belong ....
Even if it wasn't meant to be a "rides park" the non ride components haven't been updated in 20 years.
Yikes, and I'm curious because we do tend to spend our late evenings at Trader Sam's at DLR. We've even become regulars of sorts to the bartenders. I'm assuming that DLR will get other bars in the same vein, with different themes, such as Indy, or Star Wars.
Well... yes and no.
I'm totally in agreement that Ariel's and Belle's shows are past their expiration date. They added lasers to Ariel, but I have a whole separate rant on how awful most laser FX are. Belle they are unfortunately not going to touch for a while due to a billion dollar movie out right now. But that whole stage being open air sucks and makes a musical show underwhelming in the sound department.
And Indy is old and could have been updated long ago... until LucasFilm was bought and a new IJ movie is on the way.
But, the Jedi Academy was updated to a much better show. Millionaire got replaced by an excellent ride. American Idol got replaced by the much better Frozen sing-along/comedy show.
While not show stoppers, Launch Bay, the show of force, and the fashion show, are all new non-rides. Plus, the Pixar music concert is on the way. And then there's a whole new night time show of SW Fireworks.
If it was up to me, I'd close Ariel and revamp the theater for a better Belle experience. Then revamp the open air stage for a closed one and put one of Disney's other musical shorts there: Anaheim's Aladdin or cruise ships' Tangled.
And while I love Club Villain, the Sunset Showcase is way too underutilized. It needs a permanent show.
In general, Hollywood Studios is a stale park that currently can be "completed" in 5 hours or less. There are significant steps being taken over the next few years to address that.
Epcot is dangerously close to falling into the same state.
A risk/mistake that Disney often makes though is that they identify a problem like staleness and think the cause is that people don't want nostalgia. That is absolutely incorrect. Nostalgia is why the Magic Kingdom is as successful as it is. What needs to happen is a healthy blend of nostalgia mixed with modern enhancements and updates. Like so many things in theme parks and in the world, these aren't either/or options.
It's why a brand new innovative Mickey Ride is great for DHS, but it's also why building this at the cost of The Great Movie Ride is rubbing many people the wrong way. What should happen is The Great Movie Ride should receive a true update and The Mickey Ride should be a new build.
Exactly. Bingo. Bingo. Exactly.
The thing is Launch Bay needs to be gone once Star Wars Land Opens or DHS becomes a themed mess. I call it a themed mess because Star Wars Land isn't located anywhere near Star Wars Launch Bay.
Star Wars Launch Bay was only put there till Stars Wars Land is completed. Star Wars Launch Bay is where the Mickey Ride should've been.
If they ever get ride of the Beauty and the Beast show at HS. They need to make a permanent show building that isn't open air.
You are exactly right. Something that the creatives in charge of Epcot should take to heart. Expand, update all they want.....but there is a tried and true element of nostalgia for that park. Capitalize on it instead of following the impulse of a knee jerk reaction a la Frozen/Guardians.
You would have thought when they moved the original Theater of the Stars as part of the Sunset Boulevard Expansion they would have enclosed it. Who thought that investment wasn't worth it?
They could just update that thing to GOTG stuntshow.
I'd hate to lose the Indy sets so an update at least would be nice. They should do away with it being a production and just do an actual stunt show.
Don't worry, I'm a DLR Trader Sam's geek as well...and I collect their mug's as well as those from WDW. I can live with that label since we pretty much label everyone anymore.
Lump me into the Trader Sam's Grogg Grotto fan club too. The first time we went, we couldn't find it. It's intentionally hidden and I like it that way. It feels classic Disney to me. Lots of detailed stuff in there to hunt for and find. The food is great too. Big fan.
I've never been to Trader Sam's in Disneyland though.
I mean, it's not sad for the consumer... I'm pretty happy with the fact that I'm getting more Christmas offerings this year at UOR.
This makes me sad as a WDW fan, The park which used to set the standard is now being run with a 'going out of business' vibe while the number 2 has picked up WDW's discarded playbook and is running (and succeeding) with it. As a UOR passholder I think it's awesome.
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