1. The new WDWMAGIC app for iPhone and iPad is now available on the App Store.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
    Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.You can use your Twitter or Facebook account to sign up, or register directly.
    Dismiss Notice

50 MAGICal Enhancements for the 50th ...

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by WDW1974, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. Figments Friend

    Figments Friend Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    5,585
    Likes Received:
    10,857
    Look no further then the current version of Small World at Disneyland Park in sunny Southern California.
    Likely similar to this, where various Disney characters will be added to most of the ride scenes as stylized figures.
    England has Alice and Peter Pan, Italy has Pinocchio, Polynesian / South Pacific has Lilo & Stitch, and the list goes on and on.

    Have a look -





    What was once a nice tribute to how we are all the same under one sun represented by the similar looking molded dolls, now the experience has been turned into a game of 'Where's Waldo' in some respects.
    Instead of just enjoying the charming and colorful cohesive scenes, Guests now ride through trying to find the character figures 'hidden' in the scene.
    It is unavoidable...I even catch myself doing it sometimes.
    This is exspecially true for the kids riding though...which is fun for them I am sure, so your opinion may vary.

    I am not a fan of the 'characterization' of Disneyland's version of the Attraction, despite my favorite creative being involved in the project.
    I get the impression it was somewhat mandated by the company, but why the sudden rush to stick in a bunch of characters you can see elsewhere in the Park..?
    Seems a bit redundant and repetitive.
    'Synergy' taken to the extreme maybe? I'll let others form their own opinions.

    To date, I have yet to have heard a straight answer from anyone as to what the reason was at the time that Disney felt they needed to add characters to the Attraction.
    Tokyo Disneyland I believe did this 'characterization' version first, and then a few years later Anaheim's Park decided it suddenly needed this addition too.
    I'd really like to know why .....

    -
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
  2. aladdin2007

    aladdin2007 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2007
    Messages:
    5,583
    Likes Received:
    5,868
    I agree not a fan of it, and seems like the money to do that could be used better elsewhere. How about redoing the botched ugly queue? Adding the colored fountains back?.....and or bringing the fountain back to the tiki room, and the list goes on.

    When I rode small world a couple weeks ago a lady behind me was explaining to her family that this one is nowhere near as good as California because they haven't added the characters in yet and how it was so much better out west......those raising families etc seem to want characters everywhere, or Disney wants us to believe anyway it seems as well.
     
    The Empress Lilly, brb1006 and HMF like this.
  3. matt9112

    matt9112 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2012
    Messages:
    3,187
    Likes Received:
    3,787
    So a bunch of crap? That people will lap up like cats to milk?
     
  4. Figments Friend

    Figments Friend Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    5,585
    Likes Received:
    10,857
    Getting back to the current discussion regarding the WDW Resort Hotels, I'd like to add some comments.

    Back when the 'Value Resorts' were actually a value I think they played a very important role in enticing potential Guests to 'stay On Property' instead of off-site.
    I'm talking about the time period in the late 90s into the early 2000s, when rooms used to run from $45 to $65 a night.
    At those rates, and the 'free benefits' offered for staying at a Disney Resort at those times made many people, self included, decide to stay at WDW instead of elsewhere.
    It was a no brainer back then.
    The deal became even sweeter once Magical Express was added.

    If it was not for those 'Value Resorts' existing, I for one would not have visited as often as I did.
    'Moderates' did not appeal to me and the 'Deluxe' options were too expensive to me by the time I was rooming on property on a yearly basis.


    Today, the 'Value Resorts' are not at all a value in any means of the word.
    Rooms are now almost always over $100 a night now, often more depending on the season.
    For what those hotels are, that is just too much despite the benefits offered for staying 'On Property'.
    So I no longer visit WDW...have not been back since January 2013, right before MM / FP+ rolled out.
    Paid $85 a night...right before all the crazy price increases ( thanks, MM / FP+ ).

    I've been priced out of Orlando, and now fly 3,000 miles away to Disneyland in CA where I can stay next door to the Parks and have a terrific week long vacation for less money then staying a week at WDW.
    Sounds insane, but it's true. Love it out there!
    The quality of the Parks and the overall quality of the Guest experience I prefer as well.
    Such a nice difference.
    Highly recommend a visit.
    :)


    It's too bad to hear Disney is going to phase out those lower priced Resort Hotel options at WDW in the future.
    I suppose it's been coming along gradually if the last few years pricing indicates, so it's no big shock, but it's still disappointing to me as I used to be a yearly visitor and always stayed at All Star Music.
    'Free' airport transfers, comfy bed, hot shower, free soda ( with my 2001 big Resort mug..yeah! ).....it's all I needed.
    My 16 other hours of the day was spent at the Parks.

    But then again, WDW does not seem interested in retaining Guests like me.
    They don't want the adults with no kids....they don't want long term, multiple decade visitors like me who remember how it used to be, and they certainly don't want to cater to those who want to maybe save a little money by offering alternative options for those who may be interested in such.
    Nope, it's the newbies, young families with toddlers, 'once in a lifetimes', grandparents taking grandchildren who have money to blow, and 30 somethings buying into DVC.

    Times have changed at WDW over the last few years.
    This can bring good things, and not so good things.
    It's all a matter of personal perspective.
    Everyone's mileage will vary.

    Here's hoping we see some excellent new additions / enhancements / refreshenings with the upcoming proposed 50th workload...but most of all, a re-avaluation of how recent operational decisions have impacted the Guest experience.
    Improve that, and watch the profits rise even higher without having to nickel-n-dime everyone passing through the gates.


    -
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
  5. matt9112

    matt9112 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2012
    Messages:
    3,187
    Likes Received:
    3,787
    I would argue disney invites bad behavior when they don't enforce "policy " ect ect look at dress codes? I wouldn't have guessed any exsisted but technically they do. Or look at some of the guest behavior that is allowed to occur. The place is a zoo because the zoo keeper is too PC.
     
  6. Shaner56

    Shaner56 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    8
    Sorry if this was asked already, but anything about PhilharMagic? It could use some new scenes, or a whole new movie. And definitely updated 3D.
     
  7. GoofGoof

    GoofGoof Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Messages:
    8,907
    Likes Received:
    20,764
    Actually BLT has surprisingly few rooms designated as MK view (the vast majority are lake view). It's only the center section above the 4th floor (floors 2 through 4 in the center are actually standard view now - that was changed after the resort opened). If you are in a room on the north side facing out towards MK but not in the center section it's still considered Lake View even though from some rooms you can see into MK and view the fireworks from your balcony (usually by looking left as you described). There's only about 50 two bedroom eqivalent rooms that are MK view, plus a half dozen 3 bedroom grand villas. Here's a diagram I swiped from another site:

    IMG_0675.JPG

    Here's a picture from one of the Lake view rooms facing MK:
    IMG_0676.JPG
     
  8. RSoxNo1

    RSoxNo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2004
    Messages:
    16,290
    Likes Received:
    30,558
    I do it on my site
     
  9. TeriofTerror

    TeriofTerror Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    734
    Likes Received:
    3,641
    A return of the Papeete Bay Verandah?!?!:);)
     
  10. brb1006

    brb1006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2015
    Messages:
    7,166
    Likes Received:
    12,205
    Look at the Disneyland and Hong Kong versions of the ride.
     
  11. brb1006

    brb1006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2015
    Messages:
    7,166
    Likes Received:
    12,205
    I still think Tokyo can get away with it since various Disney characters are featured during the Small World finale in Dreamlights (Skip to 17:55)
     
    CanadianGordon likes this.
  12. asianway

    asianway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    6,560
    Likes Received:
    13,418
    Top of the World is a common element? It was my understanding that it was retained by Disney and the continued exclusive member access was a perk.
     
    GoofGoof likes this.
  13. GoofGoof

    GoofGoof Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Messages:
    8,907
    Likes Received:
    20,764
    Honestly, I am not 100% sure. I swiped the diagram from another site so I can't vouch for its accuracy. BLT owners aren't paying for Top of the World or receiving a benefit from any profits earned there so I imagine it's not part of the real common elements. Maybe just labeled that way to show it's not part of guest room space.
     
  14. Nj4mwc

    Nj4mwc Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2015
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    191
    Is the gondolas a sure thing, I think it sounds neat and my kids would love it but I would in no way pay extra for a hotel with a gondola stop
     
  15. MansionButler84

    MansionButler84 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2001
    Messages:
    17,863
    Likes Received:
    30,588
    Yes. I would imagine anyone will be able to go from Epcot to DHS.
     
    PorterRedkey and Princess Leia like this.
  16. homerdance

    homerdance Active Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2012
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    130
    Yes TOWL is part of the common area. http://dvcnews.com/index.php/resort...lt-declared-including-top-fo-the-world-lounge

    But, back on topic... is the going theory that the 50 will include each aspect of the lands previously announced? Like, if toy story has 3 rides, 2 shops, and 1 qs does that mean 6 there?
     
  17. MansionButler84

    MansionButler84 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2001
    Messages:
    17,863
    Likes Received:
    30,588
  18. matt9112

    matt9112 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2012
    Messages:
    3,187
    Likes Received:
    3,787
    BUT destroyed the feel of that area so badly. Sad seeing that tragic thing there.
     
    katdralion, Horizons78 and andysol like this.
  19. Tahu

    Tahu Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2003
    Messages:
    6,941
    Likes Received:
    12,497
    Hong Kong did the character version first. Then Anaheim.

    Tokyo's having the characters installed this year.
     
  20. HMF

    HMF Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2008
    Messages:
    6,152
    Likes Received:
    6,109
    Paris will hopefully be spared the longest.
     
  21. DisneyBound2017

    DisneyBound2017 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2017
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    171
    We're the exact target audience that Disney is aiming at right now, and you're absolutely correct that I can see my toddler really enjoying picking out Disney characters on the ride. With that said though, small children really like picking out other things too, like red dresses and blue flowers and which animals they see and how many windows a house has and which doll is wearing a hat. The characters are visually well done, in that they do not distract too drastically from the scenes, but their appearance does detract from the IaSW message greatly, imho.

    Thank you for the visual!
     

Share This Page