New fireworks show for the Magic Kingdom (open brainstorming)

mharrington

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I think it's high-time to retire Wishes and replace it with a brand-new fireworks show. But what? One of my own ideas here (http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/f60/new-fireworks-show-wdws-magic-kingdom-23334/) seems to be a bit too long and does not place much emphasis on fireworks.

Another idea was to do a show like World of Color, except with fireworks (http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=578394), but again, it was dismissed on the grounds of it taking away from the Imagineers' alleged claim to make that show unique to the CA Adventure and that fireworks would be a limiting medium to translate a show like that on the East Coast.

But I really want to create a brand-new fireworks show for WDW's Magic Kingdom. It needs one badly. But I'm stumped on what do. Can anyone help me?
 

FigmentJedi

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Well for one thing, if we go for the usual "Wish on a Star" type of opening deal, I'd say open with the prologue version of Down in New Orleans ("The evening star is shining bright...") before seguing into the classic When you Wish Upon a Star.
 

mickeyfan5534

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One that takes a bunch of stories and brings them into one big story, think, a cross between fireworks, lasers, water, and live performers.
 

cmwade77

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Ok, first off I have to say that a fireworks show at any Disney park should be between 17-25 minutes long (a new standard was set by Disneyland's 50th Fireworks). I also think that it not focussing on fireworks is ok, as long as it does have a fair amount of fireworks in it. I would say that it needs to be an all over the park experience, unfortunately the fireworks are usually best viewed from in front of the castle. I suggest we look to change that.

I would suggest one focused on the magic (good and bad):

  1. The fireworks start with Projections on the castle, several attractions and new mist screens setup in the various waters around the park. The opening projection shows Aladdin being trapped in the cave of wonders, getting the lamp and rubbing it.
  2. A custom firework shell in the shape of the genie pops up and a short rendition of you've never had a friend like me. Mixing projections, fireworks, water effects (using similar technology to world of color, not the same show, but the same technology), lasers, and new fiber optics installed throughout the park.
  3. He then uses custom shells, projections and other effects to show you the dreams of various Disney characters where magic is involved. (Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Cinderella, Aladdin, etc.) This portion ends with showing the dreams of Tiana.
  4. Her dreams are interrupted by the Shadow Man, who calls the dark souls (i.e. the applicable villans). These fireworks are darker colors of course and agin involves custom shells in the shapes of the villans. This will also have fire effects around the park. (Mostly on the various bodies of water).
  5. They are stopped by Mamma Oddie (a giant version of her pops up from the castle singing you got to dig a little deeper) and ends with Marry Poppins flying over head and Mamma Oddie saying "This is going to be gooood!"
  6. Custom shells in the shape of each magical friend accompanied with projections and other applicable effects too tell the story of the wishes that they will grant. (The good fairies, The Blue Fairy, Tinkerbell Flying overhead in a fashion similar to Disneyland's new back and forth motion, etc.)
  7. The show ends with the various dreams coming true and includes some new effects throughout the park, such as 3-D images that do not require 3-D glases (newer technology that is available now).
In addition there would be low level fireworks all around the park.

Attractions that are outdoors or have outdoor parts that can see the fireworks would be unique during the fireworks, for example the TTA would pipe in the music of the fireworks when they would be visible, but when inside attractions, tunnels, etc. projections and other effects would be used to match what is happening currently in the fireworks.

Yes, this is a grand, all out idea, but one that ultimately would be worth it and would encourage repeat visits to enjoy from various locations/attractions and each location/attraction will provide a unique experience and in some cases the experience will be more unique based on timing.
 

mharrington

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Original Poster
I'm sorry, but I don't think that a show simply about magic would really work. It's already been done to a degree on Magical at Disneyland. And besides, this show looks kinda like that show. And how would we get mist screens here? I don't think the moat is big enough for a show like this. At Epcot, maybe, but not here.

And I'm still not convinced that a show like World of Color couldn't work here. And also, is it required that a show have a narrative?
 

cmwade77

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Actually, the moats are more than big enough for some screens, as are the rivers of america (remember at Disneyland, they do mist screens with much smaller bodies of water than there).

Trust me my show may have a couple of elements from Magical, but is a much grander scale, in addition new effects (pushing the boundaries of technology is something that Disney has always done).

World of Color; however requires a lot more, the fountains must be able to shoot to over 120 feet high, you need an open water area that is at least 3 football fields by two football fields (to give an idea of the area). Then the support infrastructure is needed. The other problem that you get is that World of Color requires a central viewing area (at Disney World you would need to hold approximately 10,000 people if you intend on having two-three shows nightly or 30,000 if you only intend on having one show - I base these numbers on the capacity of Fantasmic! on both coasts and the capacity of World of Color here. Please note that in addition to this capacity, you need another 25% for wheelchairs, Special Assistance Passes, etc.). Having good viewing from anywhere in the park would help to alleviate guest control issues dramatically.
 

mharrington

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Actually, the moats are more than big enough for some screens, as are the rivers of america (remember at Disneyland, they do mist screens with much smaller bodies of water than there).

Trust me my show may have a couple of elements from Magical, but is a much grander scale, in addition new effects (pushing the boundaries of technology is something that Disney has always done).

But consider the nighttime parade that the Magic Kingdom has. The parade passes right by the river. And I just feel that the effects can't hide the fact that it's pretty much the same show. We really need something brand-new. But does the show really need a narrative?

And consider the fact that the show there now does have elements of Magical already.
 

mharrington

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Original Poster
I just didn't think that the moat is big enough to hold mist screens. It looks too small.

Anyway, I want to do a show kind of like "World of Color", at least in theme.
 

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