The Ecstacy and the Agony: 3/17-3/24 Trip Report

This report may be on interest to anyone travelling with small children, those staying at Port Orleans, or those considering the Disney Dining Plan (and of course to those who just enjoy reading about other people's Disney trips).

The title of this trip report comes from the Unofficial Guide's chapter regarding traveling to Walt Disney World with kids. We've been to WDW with kids before, but on this trip we had a 4-year-old and an infant. Over the course of a week, we all experienced plenty of ecstacy and agony.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't have been fool-hearty enough to attempt such a trip. We went in 2008 when my wife was pregnant with our youngest. The idea behind that trip was that it would be a farewell to Orlando until the kids were old enough to really enjoy it.

But then a unique opportunity arose. I detailed the entire experience of planning this trip in this thread: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=545256. If you feel like reading the background of how this trip came to be, go back and read-up. We'll wait for you.

For those who didn't bother going back to read the pre-trip thread, here's a rundown on the players:

Obviously, there's me. I'm the Disney fan in the family. More specifically, I'm the Disney parks nut. I had been to MK as a kid and Epcot as a teen. But I didn't get crazy about Disney until I went as an adult. My wife was a big fan of Mickey Mouse. But she'd never been to WDW. So when I planned our honeymoon, I figured we had to go to WDW. To be honest, I wasn't really looking forward to it. A few years later, I am here on the forums and my wife tolerates my Disney "obessession".

Then there's my wife, Mindy. I've pretty much told her story as relates to WDW. Honestly, she would prefer a more relaxing vacation than Disney World. Her idea of a vacation would be somewhere she can watch TV and swim. Yes, she can do both of those things at WDW. But I'm constantly dragging her out to the theme parks.

Joey, our oldest daughter is 4 (going on 5). She's a girly girl and can sometimes be shy. Other times, she loves the spotlight. This was her third trip to WDW and she has some memories of previous trips. Also, I prepared her for the trip by showing her lots of videos and pictures. Before we left, she was appointed as "the boss" of what we would and wouldn't ride.

Kara is the baby of the family. At the time we decided to take the trip, she was just a happy little bundle. She just sat and smiled at us. She was slow to start crawling, but once she did, she took off. At 10 months, she started walking. Now at 11 months, there's no stopping her. She wants to explore everything all the time!

In a supporting role, we have my younger brother. He was a cheerleader in college and taught cheerleading for many years after that. Now, he has moved into a more professional career. But he still judges cheerleading competitions from time to time. One of the reasons he does this is that he gets free trips to WDW.

One more note before I get into the trip itself, there will be pictures. But it will take me a little while to get to them. So, bear with me.

Wed, 3/17: Arrival Day

Arrival day was agony pure and simple. I won't get too deeply into the details here as they are too painful to relive. Also, I think I've blocked them from my memory. Things started off promisingly enough with a cab ride to the airport. Joey had been looking forward to riding in a taxi for a very long time. And she finally got her wish.

When we arrived at the airport, we were immediately hit with a baggage handling fee. $20 per bag for three checked bags for a total of $60. This came as a surprise to me as an infrequent traveler. In 2008 (our last flight) there had been no such charge.

I knew Delta had changed their policy, but I didn't worry too much because I had bought the tickets prior to the policy change and we had been grandfathered in. It turns out, the new charges were for carry-on bags. With no other options, I grumbled as I paid $60 for my bags to go on vacation with me. My wife fumed.

The bag fees were a minor hiccup compared to the flight itself. As I mentioned before, Kara had recently discovered walking. Ever since, she has been exploring her surroundings like crazy. So for her, sitting on our laps for two hours was not in the cards. When we wouldn't let her play on the floor of the plane, she launched into a screaming fit that lasted for most of the flight.

If you've ever been on a flight with a crying baby, you know it's torture. But trust me, it's far worse when the screaming baby is yours. Thankfully, all the guests around us were very gracious. If they were bothered, no one let on. And several started playing games of peek-a-boo or smiling and waving. This would usually stop the fits for a brief time.

When drinks came around, we got Kara some water. She likes drinking from bottles of water, but it tends to make a mess. In this case, the mess was on me. This was followed by a biscotti cookie. The cookie plus the water formed a kind of cinnamon-scented cement which bonded to my shirt for the rest of the night.

We arrived at the Orlando airport exhausted. But we were excited to leave the negative behind us and start enjoying our vacation. Thanks to Magical Express, we didn't have to worry about carting around luggage in addition to two tiny tikes. However, we did have our double stroller and some carry-ons.

At one point during the trip through the airport, Kara pulled off one of her shoes. I scooped it up and put it in a carry-on bag. Later on, a couple stopped us and asked if we were missing a shoe. I assured them that we had the shoe in our bag. Until I looked and saw that the bag had a rip in it. We hadn't even made it out of the airport and we were down 1 shoe.

The shoe was a hand-me-down, so we decided to move on without it. Kara has a habit of tossing her shoes, so I never really understood the point of buying them anyway. She never wears them for more than a couple of minutes at a time.

When we got to Port Orleans, all the girls were tired. But I was still full of excitement. The resort was even more beautiful than it looked in pictures. It was sunny and cool. I was sure the tide would change once we got checked into our room.

The castmember at check-in was really taken with Kara. I had done on-line check-in, but it actually took a good ten minutes to complete the process because he kept stopping to play games with her. As a proud dad, I can't say as I minded. He gave her a sticker which she promptly ate (well, sucked on anyway).

We headed back to the room which was in building 28 in the Alligator Bayou section of the resort. It was a little challenging to find. The signs in Port Orleans aren't always as helpful as they could be. More than once during the trip, I took the scenic route to the room by accident. Usually, I didn't mind. But this time, we were all pretty tired.

When we got to the room, our bags weren't there. For me, this was not a big deal. I knew they were travelling separately from us. But apparently my wife didn't understand this when she packed. She had been counting on changing before we went out. So she wanted to stay in the room and wait on the bags to arrive. I didn't object as the idea of changing out of my cookie shirt was appealing.

After an hour or so, my wife reluctantly gave up on waiting for the bags. We had a lot to do and we were all getting hungry. Of course, I was still wearing a shirt covered in crushed up cookie cement. But with no idea how long we could be waiting, it seemed like a good idea to go get dinner.

The plan was to go to Downtown Disney. We were going to use our first counter service credits at Wolfgang Puck Express and then shop for an autograph book as I had promised Joey. Mindy and the girls would then head home and I would go to another resort to pick up our free tickets.

What we had not counted on was that Downtown Disney was packed. It was St Patrick's Day and even the counter service restaurants were standing room only. The line at Puck's was around the block. And my wife was now blaming me.

Mindy and the girls get especially grumpy when they are hungry. So I decided to try Earl of Sandwich thinking that the line would be shorter. I'm not sure if it was shorter or not, but it seemed to be moving faster. All the while, Joey was getting whinier, Kara was getting more fidgety and my wife was fuming.

I was trying to grab a table before we even got our food. But with two little kids in a double stroller, we had limited mobility. As soon as a table became available, someone else pushed through the crowd and grabbed it. No one took mercy on us.

After we got the food, I found an empty table outside. When I say it was empty, I mean it had been stripped of any and all chairs. But I noticed lots of people sitting at tables which were bigger than their party required (a theme that would run through most of our counter service experiences on this trip). I went from table to table asking for empty chairs. After being turned down a couple of times, I finally found a party that was willing to give up their empty chairs.

Finally, the day could turn around. Or so I thought. As soon as Joey saw her peanut butter and jelly sandwich, she started crying. She expected a pb&j on white bread with the crust cut off the way she would get it at home. Instead, she had a crusty, toasty thing that was completely foreign to her. She was inconsolable.

(The sandwich didn't go to waste. As would happen many times on the trip, Kara stepped up and finished Joey's meal.)

After our failed dinner, we went to World of Disney to buy the autograph book I had promised Joey. Joey and shopping go hand in hand. She would have been happy to stay in World of Disney all week. And after the pb&j debacle, I was happy to buy her something extra.

I showed her all of the autograph books and pens. She was very reluctant to commit to any one book or pen. Instead, she wanted to look at everything. Especially the toys. Unfortunately, I needed to see someone about our tickets and it was getting late.

My wife was still fuming about the entire situation, but she agreed to let me go pick up the theme park tickets. Long story short, I spent about two hours on Disney buses picking up the tickets. When I got back to the room, the girls were all asleep.

To my surprise, Joey had picked out an autograph book with Mickey and friends on it. I was sure she'd go for princesses or Tinker Bell. But instead she went for the old school autograph book with a matching Pluto pen. (more on this later). She also picked out a Vinylmation figure. (much more on this later).

Tired, weary and hoping to make it to Epcot by rope drop, I finally turned in to bed around 11:30.

Don't worry, folks. Things get a lot better on day 2. And we start taking pictures to break up all the text!

I'll post Day 2 as soon as possible. Thanks for reading.
 

Yensid40

Member
Yikes. rough start. I hope it got better for you.

Whats this about there being a Delta charge for carry on bags? We are flying delta in a few weeks and planned to take a roll aboard to avoid the $20. They charge for those too??
 

lebeau

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Original Poster
Yikes. rough start. I hope it got better for you.

Whats this about there being a Delta charge for carry on bags? We are flying delta in a few weeks and planned to take a roll aboard to avoid the $20. They charge for those too??

It did get better. For the most part, the rest of the trip was great. Tiring, but lots of fun.

I was never really clear on what Delta changed about the baggage fees. We don't fly very often, so I don't know what the old policies were. I know they made some kind of change at the beginning of the year. But since we bought our tickets in Dec, it didn't apply to us. Foolishly, I just assumed everything was the same as it was during out last trip in 2008.

Delta does allow 1 carry on and 1 small personal item per person. I guess the new fees must be for additional carry ons? I didn't dwell on it much once I figured out I would be shelling out $60 for my checked luggage.

There will be more on our Delta experience when I get to the return flight. But based on my (limited) knowledge of their current policies, you should be fine.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Can't wait to read more! Your girls sound like cuties. Those PB sandwiches at the Earl are to dieee for.

Wait till you see the pics!

The girls were constantly being showered with attention everywhere we went by cast members and other guests alike. It really made the trip for all of us (especially Joey who is shy but thrives on attention).

I had a bite of the PB&J. It was good. Joey would have liked it if she could get past her picky-eaterness (I just made up a word!) Her loss was Kara's gain.

Lest anyone think the poor girl went hungry, Joey snacked pretty much non-stop. I won't say she ate healthy, but she did eat. It was vacation, after all.
 

erstwo

Well-Known Member
The bag fees were a minor hiccup compared to the flight itself. As I mentioned before, Kara had recently discovered walking. Ever since, she has been exploring her surroundings like crazy. So for her, sitting on our laps for two hours was not in the cards. When we wouldn't let her play on the floor of the plane, she launched into a screaming fit that lasted for most of the flight.

If you've ever been on a flight with a crying baby, you know it's torture. But trust me, it's far worse when the screaming baby is yours. Thankfully, all the guests around us were very gracious. If they were bothered, no one let on. And several started playing games of peek-a-boo or smiling and waving. This would usually stop the fits for a brief time.

When drinks came around, we got Kara some water. She likes drinking from bottles of water, but it tends to make a mess. In this case, the mess was on me. This was followed by a biscotti cookie. The cookie plus the water formed a kind of cinnamon-scented cement which bonded to my shirt for the rest of the night.

This is exactly why I ALWAYS tell people to get their child their own seat once they are able to crawl/ walk. We always got our kiddos their own seat, buckled them in their car seat, and we never had even one problem. They are so used to being in the car seat, and not being able to get out that they are 100% fine with being strapped in. It takes up enough energy just to get on the plane. I don't need a round of midget wrestling for the entire flight! :)

For some reason though, every time I say this in an online thread, five other people behind me post and say "we always just carried our kid on our lap and it was fine." I always wonder - were my kids just terrrible or does everyone else have perfect angels? :shrug: :lol:

I am so excited to read your trip report! I remember when you first mentioned your trip. We missed you by one day. Can't wait to hear more!
 

Yensid40

Member
There will be more on our Delta experience when I get to the return flight. But based on my (limited) knowledge of their current policies, you should be fine.

If it's negative I think I'll skip it haha. I'm not wild about flying Delta but when you save $300 total for 5 people you kind of have to take that. As long as I get to Florida with no delays and no issues then I'm happy.
 

jkelly8

New Member
I look forward to hearing about the rest of your trip. We drove down from GA with our 7 month old last year. There were a couple of moments when I reconsidered the whole trip. But seeing her face when she saw Mickey & riding IASW made it all worth it!!!
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
erstwo said:
This is exactly why I ALWAYS tell people to get their child their own seat once they are able to crawl/ walk. We always got our kiddos their own seat, buckled them in their car seat, and we never had even one problem. They are so used to being in the car seat, and not being able to get out that they are 100% fine with being strapped in. It takes up enough energy just to get on the plane. I don't need a round of midget wrestling for the entire flight! :)

For some reason though, every time I say this in an online thread, five other people behind me post and say "we always just carried our kid on our lap and it was fine." I always wonder - were my kids just terrrible or does everyone else have perfect angels? :shrug: :lol:

For the flight in, you were dead right. It would have been worth the extra $200 not to have to endure that! Hindsight is 20/20!

On the flight back, Kara was an angel. But we heard someone else's kid throwing a similar fit. So, I think this is pretty common.

Next time you get pushback on this advice, let me know. I'll have your back!

yensid40 said:
If it's negative I think I'll skip it haha. I'm not wild about flying Delta but when you save $300 total for 5 people you kind of have to take that. As long as I get to Florida with no delays and no issues then I'm happy.

My experience with Delta wasn't wildly negative. I do think their baggage fees are ridiculous. But I guess that's the way the industry works these days. The fact that I was taken by surprise was my fault for not reading the fine print and making assumptions. We were inconvienced by Delta on the way back, but nothing outrageous by airline standards.

I will say that I will seriously consider making the 12-14 hour drive in the future!

jkelly8 said:
I look forward to hearing about the rest of your trip. We drove down from GA with our 7 month old last year. There were a couple of moments when I reconsidered the whole trip. But seeing her face when she saw Mickey & riding IASW made it all worth it!!!

I can totally relate. My wife is kind of Disneyed out. In 7 years, we have now been to Disney World 4 times with only one other real vacation. So, she's ready to do something else. But I think even she will admit that there were moments that made the whole thing worthwhile.

(But you may have to give her a cupcake from the Port Orleans food court first.)

I'll post our first day in the parks later today. It started off a little shaky based on the previous day, but quickly turned into a great day for everyone!
 

corey154

Active Member
I can't wait to hear about your trip, after reading the first part i was tired for you guys, i'm curious to see if you made the rope drop on the first day..lol!
 

lebeau

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Original Poster
Thurs 3/18: Sunshine Seasons Saves the Day!

When last we left off everyone was exhausted, I was in the doghouse and Joey's obsession with Vinylmation figures was taking root.

Ordinarily, Kara wakes up on her own around 6am. So I figured 9am rope drop would not be a problem for us on this trip. However, the weekend before our trip was daylight savings. So clocks got set forward an hour. What felt like 6am before the trip was now 7am.

Still, two hours should be plenty of time. But since we were all so tired, 7:00 became 7:45. That left us just over an hour to get mobilized and get to Epcot. Since Port Orleans was so close to Epcot, I figured we would still be in great shape to get to the parks early.

However, I was still very much in the dog house. Mindy was still angry about having been dragged to Walt Disney World and it was my fault. To make ammends, she decided she wanted breakfast. And the Pop Tarts and cereal bars we had packed weren't going to cut it.

After nearly 7 years of marriage, I knew better than to object. A real breakfast needed to be added to the schedule. Otherwise, the day would be lost. Maybe the whole trip.

Fortunately, Mindy really wanted to ride Soarin'. It was one of the only things she was really looking forward to. So I convinced her we should get to Epcot as soon as possible, grab our FPs for Soarin' and then she could eat breakfast at the Sunshine Seasons in the Land pavillion.

Reluctantly, she agreed and we mobilized the troops. As you can see, they were full of excitement:

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We didn't quite make rope drop that morning. But we were there by about 9:10. Not bad all things considered.

Joey was very excited when she saw "The Big Ball" on the bus. Epcot was the one park she had never been to. I had shown her pictures of Spaceship Earth, but it didn't really make much of an impact until she saw it in person. Even more impressive to her young eyes were the topiaries on display for the Flower and Garden Festival. Fast Passes be damned, we took the time to take some pictures and be silly:

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By now, we were having a good time. Spirits were lifting. The Land was in sight. All we had to do was survive the FP rush.

I'm no Disney novice, but I've never seen anything like the morning stampede at the Land. It was like the scene in the Lion King when Mufasa died. No one was paying any attention to where they were going. Everyone was just crushing forward to the FP kiosks on the first floor. It was hard for me as an adult to navigate this crowd, but it was overwhelming for an excited 4-year-old.

We kept the kids close, but Joey insisted on walking. And tourists don't tend to look where they are going, especially when they have only one thing on their minds. At the top of the escalator, a woman nearly knocked Joey over pushing her way to the FP machines.

"Be careful, Joey," I said loud enough for anyone to hear but not shouting. "The Soarin' crowd won't think twice about knocking over a four-year-old when there's a Fast Pass on the line."

To her credit, the woman who nearly killed my child looked over her shoulder and shouted, "Sorry! I wasn't paying attention!" She didn't stop racing to the FP kiosk, mind you. And had there been another child in her path she'd have trampled them too because she still wasn't looking where she was going. But, oh well. My comment wasn't directed exclusively at her but at all of the stampede anyway.

Somehow, we successfully navigated our way downstairs. Mindy was now pretty hungry and had only breakfast on her mind. We decided to split up. She took Kara to Sunshine Seasons to grab breakfast while Joey and I braved the Soarin' crowd.

Not surprisingly, there were lines to get a FP. The lines weren't bad and we had a very pleasant conversation with some FL locals. The locals gave us all kinds of misinformation about tickets and the dining plan (apparently you can feed 14 people on one counter service credit at Wolfgang Pucks) but they were sweet and the made a fuss over Joey. Before I knew it, we had Fast Passes in hand and were ready to roll.

We met up with Mindy at Sunshine Seasons. Mindy had ordered the adult breakfast platter. Kara was helping her out with the eggs and potatoes. Joey grabbed the lonely sausage link. I was instructed to eat the bacon. Before I knew it, Joey was requesting additional sausage links.

So, I went back into the fray to battle the breakfast crowd at Sunshine Seasons. As I waited in line, I scoured the menu looking for the option with the most sausage links. Behind me, a couple was having a conversation that went something like this:

Him: Hey, see if you can substitute extra sausage for the bacon.

Her: We tried that already. No substitutions, remember?

Him: But I don't want the bacon. I really just want sausage.

Her: Well, I guess you're just out of luck.

He walked away and I gave up scouring the menu. None of the breakfast options included more than one link of sausage. And I wasn't relishing the idea of paying $4.09 for a kid's french toast when all I really wanted was a few sausage links. Fortunately, I've been coming around here long enough to know that what's on the menu usually isn't all you can order. Sure enough, when I asked for a side order of sausage, I got 3 links for the bargain price of about $4. I heard the woman behind me sigh in relief.

When we got back to our table, Joey devoured her sausage. Kara was finishing off what was left of Mindy's adult breakfast platter. Mindy was rejuevenated and everything was right in the World. All we had left to do was actually ride some rides!

More to come...
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
K stop wasting time talking to me...lets get this show rolling! :sohappy:

Sorry for the slowness of updates. Work keeps getting in the way! I'm going to try to get part two of day one up this afternoon.

At least if you're demanding more, it means you're enjoying it so far!
 

blackthidot

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Well to be honest I was expecting a title bout between you and the wife...dont really look like thats happening now :(
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Well to be honest I was expecting a title bout between you and the wife...dont really look like thats happening now :(

Sorry to disappoint. If it makes you feel better, things were awful tense up until she got her breakfast platter.

And things will get tense again before the trip is over. Believe it or not, we have a day that makes the arrival day look like a walk in the park with Mary Poppins.

But no title bout. I've lost too many of those to put up much of a fight these days.
 

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