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Pirate's Lair at Tom Sawyer Island
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Nicole220
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I like this TSI plan better than the total pirate makeover that came out a few months ago. And adding a ride would be neat. I also like the idea of the Incredibles pod system on the PM.
I do not like the idea of having DCA become DTD with some rides. DCA needs to be its own park. Tony Baxter is just backing away from the challenge of making DCA a better park. I think they just need to fix up a few areas and add some more good rides. They keep adding money to improve DL, why can't they use some of that money to fix up DCA? What is Tony thinking??
I do not like the idea of having DCA become DTD with some rides. DCA needs to be its own park. Tony Baxter is just backing away from the challenge of making DCA a better park. I think they just need to fix up a few areas and add some more good rides. They keep adding money to improve DL, why can't they use some of that money to fix up DCA? What is Tony thinking??
darthjohnny
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It does sound interesting. But Al Lutz talks as if this is all confirmed and it is ready to go. There still might be changes as nothing that Disney plans is set in stone. Some times I think they might just throw names around.
Who is Tony Baxter again? And why does everyone think John Lasseter of Pixar basically has huge control over the company now? :veryconfu
Who is Tony Baxter again? And why does everyone think John Lasseter of Pixar basically has huge control over the company now? :veryconfu
Nicole220
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Tony Baxter is the Senior Vice President of Creative Development at WDI.
I also don't really believe anything Al says until it is set in stone. I mean, the more I think about this, the more unbelievable it becomes. Mabye Tony Baxter was kidding about the whole idea.
That'd be awesome if they're just yanking Al's chain!
I agree that I like keeping the island Tom Sawyer's Island, with some refreshers. But also don't see how you get an actual attraction on the island with the current access.
I love DCA, and think it just needs some TLC. More Disney-original attractions, instead of so many off the shelf rides you can experience anywhere. And the Grand totally separates DCA from DD, so I think the notion of expanding DD into DCA is pure nonsense.
darthjohnny
Active Member
Thanks for the info!
Technically, many classic Disneyland attractions are just shelf rides, just Disney-fied, like Dumbo or The Teacups.
But I do agree that expansion into Downtown Disney is ridiculous. DD isn't even by that area of the park. Disney for a while has been all about all the magic for one price, that is why they got rid of single ride tickets, and came out with the all day pass in 1982.
Nicole220
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A very trusted person on another site just said that the plan to take out DCA's turnstyles is not happening. There are other plans for DCA. Apparently, they want to turn the lands into a more vintage period theme from California. Each land would represent a different time period in California's history.
I'm happy to hear this, I didn't really think the idea was true to begin with... I just don't know how they would apply time periods to certain areas of the parks. Like, what are they going to do with ToT, Monsters Inc, etc...?
I'm happy to hear this, I didn't really think the idea was true to begin with... I just don't know how they would apply time periods to certain areas of the parks. Like, what are they going to do with ToT, Monsters Inc, etc...?
Madison
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Thanks for the info!
Technically, many classic Disneyland attractions are just shelf rides, just Disney-fied, like Dumbo or The Teacups.
Actually, as far as I remember, the Disneyland incarnations of both of those attractions were the first of their kind; though I suppose one could argue that both had predecessors.
darthjohnny
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I'm not completely sure about that idea. I think it is a little outrageous.
I think DCA is fine the way it is, and it seems like it would take too much money, and too much time to do this.
I think anti-DCA Disney fans started this rumor, hoping for something to happen.
If Disney truly wanted to change the park this extremely, it seems like a better idea to tear down everything and start over.:veryconfu
Nicole220
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I love DCA, and really enjoy going there...but if retheming it will bring in crowds and keep the park going, then I welcome the new changes. I just dont' want them to take out any of the good rides or change the park drastically. Personally, I think they should take the money that they are using for placemaking and use it to build a good, solid ride. I mean, look at what Expedition Everest did for AK. If DCA could get a ride like that, then attendance might turn around.
edit: I just checked the other site again, and the lady that works at Disney just posted that the new DCA plan has 2-4 D and C level attractions, one E ticket attraction, and a lagoon show planned. The people at Disney are not going to retheme DCA without major attractions, which is exactly what I thought and hoped.
And the person who told us about new changes to DCA is someone who works at Disney, so she knows her info. It wasn't just anyone saying all of this...
darthjohnny
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I wouldn't like a complete redo of the parks, but yes, new high ticket attractions would be cool.
But I have heard this from Al Lutz, who came out with this Pirate's Lair business, so I still have to question it.
TP2000
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Wait, it is true. Al Lutz was right.
The person on the other site you referenced, "Marcie" on Mouseinfo, also said it was true that there was a serious plan to rip out the turnstiles at DCA. Marcie basically validated and confirmed that the entire thing Al Lutz put up on his last Miceage update was true.
There was a legit plan to rip out the DCA turnstiles, add 3rd party restaurants and entertainment, take out the lame rides and keep the good ones, and turn the whole park into an extension of Downtown Disney. That was first reported by Al Lutz, and then Marcie came along and confirmed that was a proposal recently.
So it's true. Al Lutz was right.
TP2000
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Pirate's Lair is actually happening. Are you saying you don't believe Pirate's Lair is going to open in May?
Al Lutz broke the story on Pirate's Lair, and everyone was shocked and the Disney spokesman refused to comment on it. But that still can't prevent it from happening.
DisneyRoxMySox
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Lee said awhile back in another DCA thread that there were some big plans for DCA back when Matt Ouimet was the President of DLR. He said they just had to get approved, so I don't see the turnstiles getting removed anytime soon. Though I wouldn't mind. :goodnevil
darthjohnny
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Just because someone puts it up on a rumor website doesn't make it true.
If Disney did this, I don't think it would draw that many people. This whole idea is a catastrophe waiting to happen. Where do these people get this info, from the sky? Disney opperates on a "need to know" basis.
Who knows what will happen between now and may. But the time frame is a little small for everything, including a high-rate attraction all in less than 6 months.
Disney doesn't like to comment on much. Whether it be true or not.
I would not be surprised if Disney leaked false information and montior these rumor sites to keep everyone on their toes.
ScrapIron
Member
I have seen no reports of a high-rate attraction in six months. The ride mentioned would be part of a second phase.
I've been reading Al's stuff since before he co-founded mouseplanet, and he is rarely flat out wrong. The thing a lot of people never seem to grasp is that he presents information when it is still in a fluid stage. Had there been an internet in the 1960s, he'd have had stories about the walk through haunted house and pirate wax museum being planned for the New Orleans Square area. Obviously, those attractions ended up taking radically different forms in the end. But it was absolutely accurate that the original idea for both was walk through attractions. Disney has a history of exploring ideas that never come to fruition; something to keep in mind when reading rumour sites.
A bientot.
I've been reading Al's stuff since before he co-founded mouseplanet, and he is rarely flat out wrong. The thing a lot of people never seem to grasp is that he presents information when it is still in a fluid stage. Had there been an internet in the 1960s, he'd have had stories about the walk through haunted house and pirate wax museum being planned for the New Orleans Square area. Obviously, those attractions ended up taking radically different forms in the end. But it was absolutely accurate that the original idea for both was walk through attractions. Disney has a history of exploring ideas that never come to fruition; something to keep in mind when reading rumour sites.
A bientot.
darthjohnny
Active Member
What?
Madison
New Member
It means, roughly, "talk to you soon," from French.