JimboJones123
Well-Known Member
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While what we spen per trip has increased slightly (gotta love the discounts), the frequency has quadrupled, thus the $$$ spent.
Of course by your logic -- DL is busy, KEEP BUILDING IT UP and leave DCA alone, who goes there anyways??
Horrible. Although those attractions would be people eaters -- Where are the people going to eat?? The park can't handle tripping over itself. Where would the additional 15K people a day park, eat, go to the bathroom. Who wants an MK that you can't walk across in under 20 minutes. Have you ever been on 4th of July? Christmas week? Spring Break? MK can keep what it has in tip top condition and be great still. A new attraction every 3-4 years is a great pace. Meanwhile you have only the 5th ride opening at Disney Studios. AK only has 6 rides. Does MK really need a 16th (I'm sure I've forgotten one or two so that 16 may be higher) ride when it already has 3x as many as 2 other parks?
Horrible.
While YOUR spending has increased.. it would still be less if your stay was replaced by another 'one time' visitor.
If you have a choice of a seat to fill.. you want it being filled with the one time visitor going all out.
Your personal tale doesn't address the underlying point. If you have 10 entrances to the park... which will Disney get more out of? 10 different one-time guests or the same AP person coming 10 times.. its very easy to conclude that the people having the Disney vacation of their dreams are going to spend more then the guy/gal looking to relax for a half day.
It's not about dollars per individual.. its about which guest spends more each time they are there.
Getting an AP does not increase your disposible income... only increases the % you may spend at Disney. The more you go, the less revenue potential Disney gets from your 'occupancy'. When you compare that to a 'fresh' guest with built up disposible income ready to blow on their big vacation.. the choice is clear.
DL WISHES it wasn't so reliant on the AP base. Hence why they TRIED to make DL into a destination resort to attract the lucrative multi-day vacationer spending time in AND out of the parks on Disney property. Unfortunately DLR is still a 3 day visit tops.
Not to add fuel to the fire, but management knows that it needs another solid E-ticket to spread the existing crowds. Opening at least one more "mountain"--or any big attraction on the level of Splash Mt.--is not going to cause a Guest traffic rush at WDW like it would at DL.
In the meantime, the existing attractions at the MK will continue to be refurbished.
P.S. DL has more attractions than the MK because it was the only California park for years, and it's still the only successful one. I'd rather have the MK's wide, landscaped areas and broad walkways than DL's stacked attractions.
Al actually seems happy about the way Disneyland is being run now. I definately don't think he hates Disney. Both Al and Kevin have probably complained about some rediculous things, but many things they have mentioned have been spot on. Al also does seem to be pretty reliable with rumors (he doesn't bat 1.000) but who could?Kevin Yee couldn't be anymore innacurate with his overly-critical potshot-infested articles.
Don't read his articles, please. Just like Al Lutz, Yee is just another pessimistic and cynical curmudgeon who hates Disney to no end and will always go out of his to bash them and make them look bad, no matter what they do.
Don't let Lutz or Yee brainwash you!
Not necessarily. Many of the WDW AP holders that I know don't even eat in the parks, they go and visit for a few hours and leave; and they rarely purchase souvenirs, unless it is a special event, such as Star Wars weekends, etc.
Of course, my sample population may not be representative of the whole.....
I mostly agree with this. I think MK needs another E-Ticket to help soften the blow of attractions going down for rehab. It seems as it the attractions at WDW don't go down as often for rehab as their Disneyland counterparts. MK has less smaller attractions and shows to spread the crowds when an attraction is down. If a new E-Ticket is built this would help Disney cover the closings similar to the Mansion rehab easier. I think MK could become a world class park if they did a few things (in no particular order).
1. Build a new E-Ticket
- As Tirian says, this would spread the crowds out and maybe make lines shorter on busy days.
2. Rehab Space Mountain
- Disney could go one of 3 ways. A. Keep the old track and just add effects. B. Tear out the track and make a one track rollercoaster (similar to Space in CA, or DLP, depending on how wild they wanted it to be. Because of the double seating it would probably have around the same capacity as the current version. C. Create a new 2 track coaster, which could be an amazing people eater.
3. New Fantasyland
- A new Fantasyland with more dark rides and the Casey + Storybook combo would add much beauty to the MK.
4. A new daytime parade
- IMHO, DDCT is not indicative of what Disney can create as far as entertainment goes and MK deserves a world class parade.
5. Continue the rehabs like Haunted Mansion
- IMHO, rides need to be changed every 10-20 years using better technology if the show is made better. The average visitor might not think of these things directly, but it makes the park and attraction seem fresher and better impresses new riders.
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