New shots over the walls (August 19th)

SeaCastle

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Not by much, unless you add the Aurora wing.

Yup, I was under the impression that they were the same building.

As a post-script, I took a good look at the blueprints and the Chateau/Aurora building is much smaller than I thought. It makes poor use of the land its on...you could fit at least three other Chateau-shaped buildings on that plot of land if it wasn't for the gardens around it.
 

DocMcHulk

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Yup, I was under the impression that they were the same building.

As a post-script, I took a good look at the blueprints and the Chateau/Aurora building is much smaller than I thought. It makes poor use of the land its on...you could fit at least three other Chateau-shaped buildings on that plot of land if it wasn't for the gardens around it.

Or 1 really nice sized D-ticket attraction.
 

jt04

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Yup, I was under the impression that they were the same building.

As a post-script, I took a good look at the blueprints and the Chateau/Aurora building is much smaller than I thought. It makes poor use of the land its on...you could fit at least three other Chateau-shaped buildings on that plot of land if it wasn't for the gardens around it.

Ahhhhh, nothing like getting a good rebooting.

Anyway, I agree, the artwork plus other information made it seem as though the chateau and mill were part of the same complex. Reminding me very much of the Philharmagic/PPF/HoP complex. The little red outline in the pic above is only marginally accurate. They are definitely digging some sort of foundation.
 

JustInTime

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Ahhhhh, nothing like getting a good rebooting.

Anyway, I agree, the artwork plus other information made it seem as though the chateau and mill were part of the same complex. Reminding me very much of the Philharmagic/PPF/HoP complex. The little red outline in the pic above is only marginally accurate. They are definitely digging some sort of foundation.

I have a feeling everyone is overreacting anyway. I am pretty sure the plans aren't even going to change that much anyway.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Anyway, I agree, the artwork plus other information made it seem as though the chateau and mill were part of the same complex. Reminding me very much of the Philharmagic/PPF/HoP complex.

Yes, it was going to be one show building, with a different facade on two sides.

JustInTime said:
I am pretty sure the plans aren't even going to change that much anyway.
The changes are substantial.
 

jt04

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Yes, it was going to be one show building, with a different facade on two sides.


The changes are substantial.

Just to be clear I was not questioning your credibility or your hard work. You may be the only reliable source left since Disney clamped down on leaks. I don't understand the secrecy Disney imposes as most people don't pay attention to this stuff anyway.
 

jumblue

Active Member
Just a thought... If there isn't a solid plan there just yet, it would stand to reason that they won't start construction there for some time. If plans in the surrounding areas were more finalized, it could be what was the Chateau's footprint is currently a storage/staging area, hence "dirt mountain" and the collection of piping.

The way the stuff's all laid out there reminds me of a model kit, all the pieces organized and ready for assembly.

It would be an awkward spot if LM and others open up and it's still not finished, though I could see walls herding us around the area, especially after seeing the "Pooh Tunnel."
 

NoChesterHester

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Just a thought... If there isn't a solid plan there just yet, it would stand to reason that they won't start construction there for some time. If plans in the surrounding areas were more finalized, it could be what was the Chateau's footprint is currently a storage/staging area, hence "dirt mountain" and the collection of piping.

The way the stuff's all laid out there reminds me of a model kit, all the pieces organized and ready for assembly.

It would be an awkward spot if LM and others open up and it's still not finished, though I could see walls herding us around the area, especially after seeing the "Pooh Tunnel."

I would like to think they really want to have it open for the 40th. Time is a ticking, but it is still possible.
 

juan

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I would like to think they really want to have it open for the 40th. Time is a ticking, but it is still possible.

I looked at a bunch of the pics of DCAs LM and it looks like ours is equivalent to DCA around the beginning of April. If they keep the same pace, we should have a substantial amount of building by the end of the year. We are only about 4 mos behind them.
Hopefully that means we could see the ride be close to finish/testing next fall right about the 40th.

I compared the overhead to this http://www.westcoaster.net/images/updates/032910/032910-dca059-sm.jpg
That pic is from 3-29-10 and our foundation looks somewhat similar.
 

NoChesterHester

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I looked at a bunch of the pics of DCAs LM and it looks like ours is equivalent to DCA around the beginning of April. If they keep the same pace, we should have a substantial amount of building by the end of the year. We are only about 4 mos behind them.
Hopefully that means we could see the ride be close to finish/testing next fall right about the 40th.

I compared the overhead to this http://www.westcoaster.net/images/updates/032910/032910-dca059-sm.jpg
That pic is from 3-29-10 and our foundation looks somewhat similar.

WDW should also benefit from an interior fit out standpoint from DCA's being ahead. While the general contractors are different, many of the internal WDI teams should be the same. There will be lessons learned from the install at DCA that can be applied in short order to the WDW version. For example, some anamatronics will have already undergone the testing at DCA. Anything is always easier to do the second time.
 

Lee

Adventurer
It would be an awkward spot if LM and others open up and it's still not finished, though I could see walls herding us around the area, especially after seeing the "Pooh Tunnel."

Yeah, I was actually just pondering that very thing.
Hard to imagine them opening Mermaid and BatB without having Project X ready as well. Quite an ops nightmare to channel guests around and through a large, active construction site.
I kinda suspect that Project X will require a somewhat shorter build time than the rest of FLE west...
 

SeaCastle

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Does the short build time indicate anything about the scope/quality of the attraction? Assuming R&D is done, they still haven't started construction yet, while TLM and the rest of FLE West essentially has the trigger pulled.
 

SeaCastle

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Nothing negative, if I'm looking at it correctly.
(And no, by looking I don't mean looking...)

Can you elaborate on any of the scuttlebutt being thrown around for the mystery attraction? Is anything pointing to a Snow White-themed ride?
 

Lee

Adventurer
Can you elaborate on any of the scuttlebutt being thrown around for the mystery attraction? Is anything pointing to a Snow White-themed ride?

There has always been things pointing towards Snow White. Still is. I still don't know for sure. But I'm getting closer.

Stay tuned...
 

SeaCastle

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There has always been things pointing towards Snow White. Still is. I still don't know for sure. But I'm getting closer.

Stay tuned...

I'm wondering what the budget for the mystery ride is. Obviously if it recycles SWSA show scenes that should have drove costs down a bit.
 

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