I've got no memory of it. Was it removed for New Tomorrowland in 94'? Cause that would explain my lack of memory for it.I'd like to know when that was removed as well. I have a faint memory of it, but I am not sure.
I've got no memory of it. Was it removed for New Tomorrowland in 94'? Cause that would explain my lack of memory for it.
I don't think I've ever seen this shot before. It's amazing!!!! I can only imagine what all that water sounded like!
Quite possible... Back then the number one attraction at WDW was Space Mountain. At rope drop it was a sprint directly to SM. It's a wonder people weren't stampeded in the process. The difference was that back then 40 minutes was probably pretty accurate now 40 minutes can mean up to 90.Hard to tell, but it looks like the standby wait time is 40 minutes in both pics .. lol. I guess some things stay the same.
I always liked the sculpture(?) of the bobsled with the guys in spacesuits in it.
Love your pics, keep em comin!
I wouldn't have guessed that Reams Road and Lake Hancock Road existed in 1947... interesting! Where did you find this? I love seeing photos of the area from before WDW.Here's a very rough overlay of an aerial map of what would become the Disney property northern area (MK/TTC area) from1947.
I have drawn very crudely over to show approximate location of MK, Seven Seas Lagoon and Contemp Resort.
Oh, yeah! You saw that right 1947 aerial map. Sorry no closer zoom.
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I wouldn't have guessed that Reams Road and Lake Hancock Road existed in 1947... interesting! Where did you find this? I love seeing photos of the area from before WDW.
When was the statue removed?
I don't think it's stupid. And your example just doesn't apply.seriously, just the fact that people are talking about kids in strollers 40 years ago vs today is just stupid. it's like people saying the 90s were better off than today "just because"
First shot of Tomorrowland Entry is probably in the 80s... The 1971 entrance was just simple blue tile with water pouring over it, and downward water jets on the spires. The tiles were removed and the graphics arrives about 10 years later...I guess there were issues with the roof leaks and fountain maintenance.
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This shot would have been taken around 1975 as Space Mountain is visible over the roof.
Or you're just lucky. That is like somebody that has never been in a car wreck taking all the credit for never being in a wreck. My wife has been in three. All three at stoplights when not moving. All three just ran into her bumper. People can hit you. With a stroller, car, scooter, whatever. I hate to break it too you, but while skill may be involved, luck is a huge factor. The common denominator may be the victim, but we all know how well victim blaming pans out in the long run.Photo's, contrary to belief, are not inclusive evidence of the reality, especially in the sense of how they are used on a site like this one. If I had 5 photos of different areas in WDW and 4 of them showed a large number of strollers and one didn't, what does one suppose would be used if my arguing point was there were fewer back then then now. Couple that with the fact that every picture is a moment in time and it really tells one nothing.
Over the years attitudes have changed about how things should be done. I remember back in 1983, as I stated once before, people didn't take younger (infant) children to theme parks as often as they do now. That increases the number of strollers by a large margin right there, add to that the idea that it never occurred to us back then that if our children were healthy and able to walk, that they wouldn't be walking. Getting a stroller didn't even cross our minds and they at the older age of 5 and above would have been highly insulted if they were treated like babies. Not so in today's world. Same applies to Scooters. Back then if you were elderly, unable to walk long distances you stayed home. Thank goodness that is no longer the way to think. We now have things that can make living a long time more enjoyable and society encourages us to "just do it".
With the very few problems that strollers and scooters actually cause* it really shouldn't even be a talking point at all. the alleged "victims" of the two are usually the ones responsible for the few encounters that do occur with them whether we like it or not. Every single incident that I have seen has been when someone is not paying attention and steps in front of or generally is oblivious to the world around them.
*No one has ever used one to intentionally hurt someone, I don't care what spin you put on it. Share the world and all will be fine. I have been going to WDW for 32 years now and have never been hit by anything. Yet, we hear of people getting hit all the time. Well, that tells me that there is one common denominator in that scenario and that is the person that is getting hit. You are doing something wrong even if it is just carrying the attitude that everyone else has to watch out for you instead of you being aware of it being your responsibility to stay out of harms way.
True, but in this case the odds are that the "victim" was highly responsible for it. There is a difference between sitting at a stop light and traversing through a theme park. Ask your insurance company how many "no fault" accidents you have to be in before your rates go up. The theory is that if one is involved in an accident often enough it tells them that they are not paying attention to their surroundings and therefore not making the right decisions that might have prevented it.Or you're just lucky. That is like somebody that has never been in a car wreck taking all the credit for never being in a wreck. My wife has been in three. All three at stoplights when not moving. All three just ran into her bumper. People can hit you. With a stroller, car, scooter, whatever. I hate to break it too you, but while skill may be involved, luck is a huge factor. The common denominator may be the victim, but we all know how well victim blaming pans out in the long run.
Back to Then and Now photos......
Sixth photo pair. Then: May 1974. Harper's Mill on Tom Sawyer Island. A weathered wood building with no paint. After park opening for 2 1/2 years, the trees in the foreground are still small.
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Now: July 2015. 41 years later, the pine trees in the foreground are gone now. The river bank is planted with bushes. The fence and stone wall are still there, just hidden by trees and shade. Of course, Harper's Mill itself is an appropriate red weathered paint color.
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Besides, if they kept it unpainted there would be an uproar about how awful Disney Maintenance is. Imagine letting it get to the point that it looks like it's ready to fall down. Those guys just don't care.I've been really enjoying your interesting pictures throughout this thread, and thank you for sharing them.
The set of Harper's Mill pictures were intriguing, because both renditions look appropriate, IMO. I might lean a little bit toward the 1974, unpainted version of the mill; yet, the reddish/brown painted color on the 2015 mill also blends in nicely on Tom Sawyer Island.
Besides, if they kept it unpainted there would be an uproar about how awful Disney Maintenance is. Imagine letting it get to the point that it looks like it's ready to fall down. Those guys just don't care.
I believe so
Here's some from Magic Kingdom
2009 - Fantasyland Skyway Station
2013 - Tangled Toilets
1983 - Haunted Mansion
2011 - Haunted Mansion
1983 - Pirates
2011 - Pirates
1983 - it's a small world
2011 - it's a small world
Photos from Magic King Then and Now Part 1&2, as well as The Magic Kingdom Skyway - Yesterland. com
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