A Spirited Perfect Ten

[FigmentJedi]

repeated lightning strikes.. and they didn't even try to install a lightning lance/arrest system nearby? :|

It was already getting pretty old when they opened that part of the Disney farm as a tourist attraction. Most cottonwoods last like maybe 70 years, some of the oldest getting around to 120 and considering this is a tree that a child Walt laid under, it was probably more towards that end of the spectrum.

I think actually it was mostly down to the trunk at this point (and I think some Marceline pages described it as the trunk that remained), but apparently Mother Nature really loved that chew toy. Hopefully the sapling that WDW horticulture grew and had planted for the site from one of the seeds about a decade ago has better luck.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Does anyone else get a weird, religious/cult of personality vibe from lore like this?

Well Walt tourism is the main driver of the local economy.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Another Oscar winning short film director at WDAS leaves.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/oscar-winning-feast-director-creating-798569

 

[Jose]

If the Frozen ride is successful, I can imagine Epcot being the 2nd MK.

 

[cdd89]

If the Frozen ride is successful, I can imagine Epcot being the 2nd MK.

Noting that there's a big difference between 'Successful' and 'Good'.

Even if it isn't good (it's a given that it'll be successful), I'm optimistic that in the long term it'll result in 2 Tier-1 FP+s in Epcot since there'll actually be some competition in terms of popularity for Soarin' and TT. So if the Frozen attraction turns out to be atrocious, at least I'll have an easy decision with FP+'s and an actual, tangible improvement in terms of my experience. And if by some fluke of nature it is a great attraction, well...

 

[DisneyDad1977]

Sad news from Marceline, Missouri

How long before we see "Dreaming Tree" pins with a splinter in a plastic bubble?

 

[PhotoDave219]

If the Frozen ride is successful, I can imagine Epcot being the 2nd MK.

Someone suggested to me that Disney is internally projecting 15-20% attendance growth at Epcot because of that one ride.

I'm gonna suggest 5-7% IMO

 

[twebber55]

Someone suggested to me that Disney is internally projecting 15-20% attendance growth at Epcot because of that one ride.

I'm gonna suggest 5-7% IMO

zero chance of a 20% raise in attendance.....im thinking you ve nailed it

 

[wdisney9000]

Noting that there's a big difference between 'Successful' and 'Good'.

Even if it isn't good (it's a given that it'll be successful), I'm optimistic that in the long term it'll result in 2 Tier-1 FP+s in Epcot since there'll actually be some competition in terms of popularity for Soarin' and TT. So if the Frozen attraction turns out to be atrocious, at least I'll have an easy decision with FP+'s and an actual, tangible improvement in terms of my experience. And if by some fluke of nature it is a great attraction, well...

Dont forget how people have claimed that the Frozen attraction will somehow make ALL of Epcot more appealing to those who previously found it lackluster and they will stay longer. Im really looking forward to visiting Innoventions East and West and enjoying all the new and exciting offerings that will be there once the Frozen attraction debuts. /sarc off

 

[Darth Sidious]

Oh I think it makes perfect sense for them to build a water park. My point is, I'm assuming many were already staying that extra night and enjoying one of the nearby water parks off property. This probably hits the WetnWild and Aquatica harder than Disney.

Universal's aggressive strategy should concern Disney...at least push them to shorten the construction periods for the stuff being worked on...and dare I say the stuff rumored.

Competition is good. The Theme Park wars continue.

Wet n Wild is owned by Uni. I vaguely remember hearing the plan was to close it once this new water park opened.

 

[ScoutN]

That's what I'd do, RCCL. Oasis class.

Nah, I was on MAGIC when they plucked the MOB from the water from Oasis. Or Royal Scarribean's seven day cruise to the norovirus.

 

[Bairstow]

Dont forget how people have claimed that the Frozen attraction will somehow make ALL of Epcot more appealing to those who previously found it lackluster and they will stay longer. Im really looking forward to visiting Innoventions East and West and enjoying all the new and exciting offerings that will be there once the Frozen attraction debuts. /sarc off

I don't understand.
Whether or not it's a good idea, it's almost certain that the Frozen overlay is going to increase EPCOT's attendance.
Even families who are only interested in the princess stuff are probably going to make an afternoon of having to be there.

I don't think anyone's arguing that it's going to lead to investment in the rest of Futureworld, though.

 

[bhg469]

Oh, then that means what? Snow swirling in the dark?

congratulations, you've just passed the modern day imagineer entrance exam!

 

[bhg469]

zero chance of a 20% raise in attendance.....im thinking you ve nailed it

And probably about .001% increase resort wide. All this will accomplish is steal a few families away from MK for 3 hours while they wait in line. When they're done, back to MK.

 

[ford91exploder]

I am super psyched for Star Wars Land at WDW.

Just PO'ed that I'll have to wait years for it.

Curb your enthusiasm, We don't know if anything other than the 'Rebel Hangar' is coming to WDW...

 

[ford91exploder]

If the Frozen ride is successful, I can imagine Epcot being the 2nd MK.

Based on a ride which will likely have a 900 guest per hour capacity ???

 

[Bairstow]

And probably about .001% increase resort wide. All this will accomplish is steal a few families away from MK for 3 hours while they wait in line. When they're done, back to MK.

It will probably steal more than a few, and more importantly it will probably steal them away from the Magic Kingdom long enough to get a meal, which Epcot is definitely better equipped to do than the Magic Kingdom these days during the lunch hours.

From a park management standpoint alone, giving EPCOT a must-see attraction for young children is going to a welcome shift of guest patterns for the resort as a whole.
It won't be a huge shift, I'll grant you, but everything WDW can do to divert guests from the Kingdom and into the other 3 parks, even temporarily, is appreciated.

 

[Funmeister]

May I ask in what way your reply had anything to do with what I had said????

Oh, just agreeing with what you said that Disney confronts people on occasion. Just added that in many cases they should confront people a little more. Right?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Based on a ride which will likely have a 900 guest per hour capacity ???

So for the sake of argument and my My ability to do math right now, we get that up to 1000 an hour. That's 12,000 guests able to ride the ride per day. A look at last years TEA Numbers (2013) save it Epcot draws 36,000 people Per day. Right now, two thirds of your daily audience cannot ride that attraction because there's just not enough room for them. A 20% increase off those numbers is roughly 43,000 people per day. Now you're pushing three quarters of your daily audience cannot experience that attraction.

Long story short, this is a very low capacity attraction. They've set themselves up for the potential of some very negative public relations because there will be a lot of very angry little girls. They will be very upset that they weren't able to ride their frozen ride because only 900 people per hour under the best conditions can ride.

This is a disaster waiting to happen…

 

[PhotoDave219]

It will probably steal more than a few, and more importantly it will probably steal them away from the Magic Kingdom long enough to get a meal, which Epcot is definitely better equipped to do than the Magic Kingdom these days during the lunch hours.

From a park management standpoint alone, giving EPCOT a must-see attraction for young children is going to a welcome shift of guest patterns for the resort as a whole.
It won't be a huge shift, I'll grant you, but everything WDW can do to divert guests from the Kingdom and into the other 3 parks, even temporarily, is appreciated.

Assuming it actually gets that 20% mark, you're looking at an extra 6500 guests per day. All with the intention of riding an attraction that only can handle 12,000 per day as it is.

Basic math says they didn't think this through.