righttrack
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I live in the NYC area. Skyscrapers go up in less time.
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Universal Orlando Getting Bigger, Better, Wetter, Wilder
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mahnamahna101
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Well, there's plenty of room in the current parks. The space just isn't well-utilized.If half of those things happen by 2020, that would be astonishing.
But if nothing else, your list goes to show that Universal's not suffering for space. There's plenty that can be added and improved with the current resort footprint.
(Of course, as someone pointed out, there's a high school track close to the berm. Guess Universal wishes it had the "blessing of size".)
In IOA:
- Doom/Carnage warehouse
- All of Toon Lagoon except Popeye
- arguably JPRA
- Trikes plot
- Discovery Center
- Dragon Challenge (perfect spot for Forbidden Forest expansion though)
- almost all of Lost Continent
- plot by Cat
- Sneetch Beach
- Shrek/Lucy area
- Twister
- San Fransisco
- Fear Factor
- MIB/Springfield mystery plot
- all of KidZone except E.T.
Funmeister
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Once again, the theme park wars are not determined by who has the fastest, biggest attraction. The real war is per cap and night stays. You knew that though....right?
jakeman
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It seems that Halloween costumes are a viable metric...
Mike S
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He's probably thinking in terms of wait time, but that'll be a bit skewed since the ride will have the same capacity as Maelstrom which was terrible.
Kman101
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I love Universal but they aren't overtaking Disney anytime soon. It's going to take a lot to change that. They're ON THE WAY to doing that, but they still have a long way to go. And while Universal has a lot on their plate, I just want to point out they aren't adverse to following WDW and riding high on their success. That's not happening yet, but it will (and wasn't it just said they greenlit some things that were pushed off ....). Not trying to be a downer, but there has to be a bit of reality in here too.
mahnamahna101
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To be honest, if USF and IOA are both past 10 million guests each by 2021, that's a major victory. Universal doesn't have to be Disney. Their attractions cost far less and they're a smaller resort for the time being.
3 gates with 10-11m guests and a water park with 3-4m a year is solid enough
Funmeister
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Ugh...define overtake. This is not a game of RISK. Every penny that is spent on Universal property is a penny not spent on Disney property. Every penny Universal gains IS overtaking a penny from Disney.
JWG
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No, I think you've come to a site where folks have become tired of Disney declining by degrees and taking an approach that quality and show no longer matter more than anything else. That a premium brand, charging a premium price, seems to be offering a discounted product.
Mike S
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They will never fully overtake Disney imo. What they will do is become their own complete destination. But then again things we never thought possible have happened before so let's just wait and see.
ToInfinityAndBeyond
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You guys are hilarious. Disney is doing just fine. There are things that would be great to see fixed up, but they are not struggling by ANY means.
Funmeister
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First, who said they are struggling? You did. Second, you have never worked for Disney (in a professional capacity...not in parks) have you? What is your cubicle number at Maingate and I will stop by next time I am there.
Mike S
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No one said that they were, just that Universal is catching up faster and faster with every expansion.
H2O_Mouse-Ears
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On what basis is this statement being made? It seems very difficult to make such an assumption at this point in time.
DisneyJayL
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- In the Parks
- No
Not at all. Just the line of think that Universal with somehow overtake Disney. I agree for the most part that Universal is doing a good job, but it's going to take a little more than what they are doing, or trying to do in my opinion. I'm not new though.
ToInfinityAndBeyond
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You're obviously pretty passionate about this. I'll see myself out.
Kman101
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In that sense, sure.
Universal is taking risks. And I'm thrilled.
I still don't see them taking over as the destination resort in Florida. Mike said it best in that it will become it's own destination.
TalkingHead
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Depends how you define "overtake." Is IOA going to have a higher gate count than MK? No way.
But if you're measuring the two resorts based on the subjective metric of "Now, that's impressive," then, yes, I'd say Uni's new offerings have overtaken WDW's new offerings.
ToInfinityAndBeyond
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Exactly. Universal is just stepping up their game and doing a great job of making their own brand known. This isn't a war, it's a coming of age for Universal.
Kman101
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To be honest, if USF and IOA are both past 10 million guests each by 2021, that's a major victory. Universal doesn't have to be Disney. Their attractions cost far less and they're a smaller resort for the time being.
3 gates with 10-11m guests and a water park with 3-4m a year is solid enough
Exactly.
And with the bold, exactly again.
They're very different resorts.
I'm championing them doing well but I simply stated I don't see Universal overtaking Disney right now with attendance. "Maybe" is a long way off. Possible? Sure.
That's all I'm trying to say. Some have Universal already overtaking Disney and have it on a very high pedestal as they can do no wrong. I just want to see a bit more realism. And that doesn't mean being sarcastic (that wasn't directed towards you at all) by trying to find a fault. It's just ... let's wait and see. Universal is riding high but can stop at anytime to ride off their own success. I'm just trying to be realistic.