The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

[Goofyernmost]

Sounds like you're doin' pretty well yourself, then. Good to hear. And yes, usually, always good to be on the upper side of the lawn.
Again, not trying to be argumentative at all, just continuing the discussion.
Pop is not crotchety, cantankerous, ornery, combative, etc. He just seems to be doin' what he's always done. Nothing to prove. At least, not outwardly, anyway. Just goin' about his usual business.
Now, I'm also aware that could all turn on a dime, just as soon as we start suggesting he may wanna' dial things back a bit. Only time will tell...

I'll try to ignore the reference to my personality. As much as I come across as all those things I really am not. I am hardened to some extent by life, but, I still enjoy what I can. I was never wealthy, but, I am managing to keep a pretty good lifestyle and as long as my 2005 Cadillac continues to function, I will consider myself rich. So I am happy with how things are right now.

That said, I might add in here, that I am able to put on a good show for my children and the people I care about concerning the state of my mind and the state of my health. I'm honest when necessary, but, since no child wants to accept that the parents that they love are aging and not the super strong individuals they were years ago there is a lot of involuntary denial on their part. One of the reasons that I force myself to be active is a process of trying to cheat the aging process. Even though every time I go to a restaurant no one ever asks me if I'm eligible for a senior discount anymore, my mirror tells me that I still look young. Mirrors lie something awful. I don't have many wrinkles but like those that go to get those injections, I have plenty of stored fat that keeps my skin smooth. As I lose weight, I can start to see areas that are no longer very youthful looking.

My point is that until you get to the older ages, you don't have a clue about how you will feel and how it will affect you. My father was content to let himself get old and died at age 74. My mother fought aging almost since her birth and lived to be 87. She would still be going strong, I think, if Pulmonary Fibrosis hadn't set in on her. Very few of us spend our days constantly aware the we are on the downside of life and that there are a lot fewer days left then we have already lived. However, we are all conscious of it and deal with it in different ways. I'm sure that since he is the age he is, he is probably more aware of it then even I am and as such is always looking for ways to prove to himself that he still can keep up with the youngun's. For the most part that is a good thing, it does serve to give people a much needed motivation to continue for as long as possible. I'm not saying that anyone should try and stop us from climbing up on roofs nor should they encourage it. Just understand why it is happening and understand that someday you will be there and then it will become clear.

 

[seahawk7]

One of my DH engineers had to be let go. He was found on a regular basis asleep and was warned. After released he came back a short time later and asked to be reconsidered. He was a very overweight man and after being released went to see a Doc. He had Apnea which had lots to do with his weight and gave him a CPAP. He was allowed to return, they re-worked his status as a medical leave and dropped over time half his body weight and no longer needed the CPAP after about 2 years.

And there is others like my Mom, we are a family of allergies. Sometimes it is just postnasal and that natural self defense mechanism not to let anything down our 'ole wind pipes. Doc told her to sleep with head elevated. That was difficult so I reworked her bed similarly to what I did to my kids cribs and beds when small. I raised the head of the bed 8 inches with bed risers. That way she is still laying flat but her head is elevated. I use to put those huge telephone books of yesteryear under my kids bed and cribs when they had a nasty cold.

Yea I can take one look at an inpatient and know if I'm going to be putting them on bipap/ cpap for the night. Losing weight is the best solution for a grown up. My son at the age of six had his adenoids and tonsils taken out to clear his airway because he was having the problems that you described your DW's coworker having. Once he had his airway cleared he was better. Sometimes it's external other times internal.
I agree with @MinnieM123 about the ENT doctor. In my opinion, only RTs, ENTs, and Pulmonologists are people I would trust in helping patients with these issues. I've seen too many family doctors and nurses give dangerous advice to patients when it comes to respiratory or sleep issues. A lot of times I see these patients in the ER. I dont claim to know much about the other body systems, but i eat and sleep cardiopulmonary. Just my educated opinion.

 

[JenniferS]

Here's another kinda' cute one...

Looks like wrapping paper from my childhood.

 

[JenniferS]

I'm watching Million Dollar Listing, and I remembered hearing that Josh' grandma had passed away this summer.
So, I spent a few minutes Googling Edith Flagg. What an extraordinary woman.

Turns out that this was the episode in which she died.
Josh cried. I cried.

 

[MinnieM123]

Ok, here it is...
1. George saves his brothers life when he falls through the ice on a pond. He, however, ends up deaf in one ear because of it.
2. George grows up and saves his money to travel the world, that is his dream.
3. His father is taken ill and he must take over the Savings and Loan to stop the evil Mr. Potter from taking it over and gouging the customers.
4. George marries the girl of his dreams.
5. As he is getting ready to go with her on his world tour, the depression happens and there is a run on the banks.
6. George saves the savings and loan by using his own money to stave off that panic and keep the bank in operation basically making it through.
7. World War II happens and George, because of his ear, is not drafted, instead he stays home and work for the war effort while operating the S&L. He manages to help people get their first houses and form a community in Bedford Falls.
8. All is going well for them and, by now, has a boatload of children, one of which is oddly named Zuzu, that is an indication that something bad is about to happen, and it does.
9. Georges Uncle Billy works at the S&L and is given the job of depositing the days receipts in Mr. Potters bank. (since they are a savings and loan I never understood why he had to put the money someplace else, but it did help the story) anyway, his Uncle Billy goes to the bank and spends so much time bragging about his nephew, the war hero, that he manages to lose the deposit.
10. Potter finds it and decides that he can take over the S&L by offering George a job with him since he had reported to the Banking committee that the S&L was short cash. (due of course to the lost money)
11. As everything is falling down around him George is depressed and drinking. Then goes home and proceeds to be mean to everyone including his wife and kids.
12. When his wife stops him he runs out the door and into the snow storm.
13. George runs his car into a tree that is near the bridge over the local river. He stands at the railing contemplating jumping over the rail and killing himself.
14. Through out this entire story there is an angel that hasn't yet gotten his wings. He is given the history and sent down to earth to see if he can save George from himself and thus earn his wings.
15. Seeing that George is about to end it all, Clarence (that's the angel) jumps into the river so that George will save him.
16 He, of course does save him, and in the process of drying off tells Clarence the he wished he had never been born.
17. That gave Clarence an idea, so he does whatever brand of voodoo that angels do and wipes all of Georges life away.
18. George then goes out and in the process discovers all the things that he did good in his life. He sees that many people died because his brother wasn't there to save them. (remember he was the one that fell through the ice in the beginning) Without George there he drowned. His wife was a spinster, no kids existed. His mother didn't know him. His friends didn't know him. The S&L was taken over by Potter. None of the people that he helped were able to own their own homes because George wasn't there to help them. In other words all the good he did, did not happen because George didn't exist.
19. He goes out and finds Clarence and begs him to bring him his life back because he has learned his lesson.
20. George then goes running back home and find out that his wife having found out what happened at the S&L (remember the S&L?) has rallied all the people that George had helped in his lifetime and they collected money and gave it to George so that his books would balance and all would be saved.
21. As he holds Zuzu up to the tree a decorative bell rings and she says. "Teacher says that whenever a bell rings an angel gets his wings." George agrees and winks knowing that Clarence now has his wings. And says... Way to go, Clarence! The end... along with a rousing rendition of Auld Lang Syne! Fade out... roll credits.

I may have left out a number of details there, but, that is it in a nutshell. I might even have confused the sequence (it's been a while since I watched the movie), but the just of it is there. All that is good prevailed and everyone lived happily ever after.

That was AMAZING!!! I just realized that I had missed a number of details in this movie, even though I've probably seen it about 25 times over the years!

 

[MinnieM123]

Here's another kinda' cute one...

Very cute! Reminds me of a Christmas wrapping paper design for children, from many years ago.

Edit: I just read Jennifer's response and I think it's hilarious that we both had the same response to this design! Too funny !!!

 

[seahawk7]

I'm watching Million Dollar Listing, and I remembered hearing that Josh' grandma had passed away this summer.
So, I spent a few minutes Googling Edith Flagg. What an extraordinary woman.

Turns out that this was the episode in which she died.
Josh cried. I cried.

I love that show. It was a very sad episode. I love that he had such a good relationship with his grandma. I think it will be the next episode where you see the two Joshes sit down. For all their professional competitiveness, they really support each other in life. It is a nice moment.

 

[MinnieM123]

I have the news on and the meteorologist just announced today is the first day of winter! I'd like to officially welcome Frosty the Snowman back in town!

 

[MinnieM123]

I'll try to ignore the reference to my personality. As much as I come across as all those things I really am not. I am hardened to some extent by life, but, I still enjoy what I can. I was never wealthy, but, I am managing to keep a pretty good lifestyle and as long as my 2005 Cadillac continues to function, I will consider myself rich. So I am happy with how things are right now.

That said, I might add in here, that I am able to put on a good show for my children and the people I care about concerning the state of my mind and the state of my health. I'm honest when necessary, but, since no child wants to accept that the parents that they love are aging and not the super strong individuals they were years ago there is a lot of involuntary denial on their part. One of the reasons that I force myself to be active is a process of trying to cheat the aging process. Even though every time I go to a restaurant no one ever asks me if I'm eligible for a senior discount anymore, my mirror tells me that I still look young. Mirrors lie something awful. I don't have many wrinkles but like those that go to get those injections, I have plenty of stored fat that keeps my skin smooth. As I lose weight, I can start to see areas that are no longer very youthful looking.

My point is that until you get to the older ages, you don't have a clue about how you will feel and how it will affect you. My father was content to let himself get old and died at age 74. My mother fought aging almost since her birth and lived to be 87. She would still be going strong, I think, if Pulmonary Fibrosis hadn't set in on her. Very few of us spend our days constantly aware the we are on the downside of life and that there are a lot fewer days left then we have already lived. However, we are all conscious of it and deal with it in different ways. I'm sure that since he is the age he is, he is probably more aware of it then even I am and as such is always looking for ways to prove to himself that he still can keep up with the youngun's. For the most part that is a good thing, it does serve to give people a much needed motivation to continue for as long as possible. I'm not saying that anyone should try and stop us from climbing up on roofs nor should they encourage it. Just understand why it is happening and understand that someday you will be there and then it will become clear.

I think you have the right attitude: positive. Plus, you're very entertaining. And, you have many opinions that you share, indicating that you're certainly keeping up with current situations. My hunch is you will outlive even your mother who was 87!!

 

[Gabe1]

I'll try to ignore the reference to my personality. As much as I come across as all those things I really am not. I am hardened to some extent by life, but, I still enjoy what I can. I was never wealthy, but, I am managing to keep a pretty good lifestyle and as long as my 2005 Cadillac continues to function, I will consider myself rich. So I am happy with how things are right now.

That said, I might add in here, that I am able to put on a good show for my children and the people I care about concerning the state of my mind and the state of my health. I'm honest when necessary, but, since no child wants to accept that the parents that they love are aging and not the super strong individuals they were years ago there is a lot of involuntary denial on their part. One of the reasons that I force myself to be active is a process of trying to cheat the aging process. Even though every time I go to a restaurant no one ever asks me if I'm eligible for a senior discount anymore, my mirror tells me that I still look young. Mirrors lie something awful. I don't have many wrinkles but like those that go to get those injections, I have plenty of stored fat that keeps my skin smooth. As I lose weight, I can start to see areas that are no longer very youthful looking.

My point is that until you get to the older ages, you don't have a clue about how you will feel and how it will affect you. My father was content to let himself get old and died at age 74. My mother fought aging almost since her birth and lived to be 87. She would still be going strong, I think, if Pulmonary Fibrosis hadn't set in on her. Very few of us spend our days constantly aware the we are on the downside of life and that there are a lot fewer days left then we have already lived. However, we are all conscious of it and deal with it in different ways. I'm sure that since he is the age he is, he is probably more aware of it then even I am and as such is always looking for ways to prove to himself that he still can keep up with the youngun's. For the most part that is a good thing, it does serve to give people a much needed motivation to continue for as long as possible. I'm not saying that anyone should try and stop us from climbing up on roofs nor should they encourage it. Just understand why it is happening and understand that someday you will be there and then it will become clear.

I actually like you, a lot. You can be gruff or you can be a mushy teddy bear. You can really dish out your opinion on a particular topic but are mindful of sticking to the topic when you disagree. The opinions I've seen of yours have merit if I agree or disagree with them and demonstrate a good thought process with intellect behind your opinions. I've seen people slam you in a personal way and you never lower yourself or stoop to a classless level. You have a filter and boundaries that is admirable.

OK, now that I've said too much nice about you, I need to go to news and rumors and find something to disagree with you about to balance out the universe here.

 

[FutureCEO]

I have the news on and the meteorologist just announced today is the first day of winter! I'd like to officially welcome Frost the Snowman back in town!

And Christmas Eve and Day is supposed to be 60.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

 

[donaldtoo]

I'll try to ignore the reference to my personality. As much as I come across as all those things I really am not. I am hardened to some extent by life, but, I still enjoy what I can. I was never wealthy, but, I am managing to keep a pretty good lifestyle and as long as my 2005 Cadillac continues to function, I will consider myself rich. So I am happy with how things are right now.

That said, I might add in here, that I am able to put on a good show for my children and the people I care about concerning the state of my mind and the state of my health. I'm honest when necessary, but, since no child wants to accept that the parents that they love are aging and not the super strong individuals they were years ago there is a lot of involuntary denial on their part. One of the reasons that I force myself to be active is a process of trying to cheat the aging process. Even though every time I go to a restaurant no one ever asks me if I'm eligible for a senior discount anymore, my mirror tells me that I still look young. Mirrors lie something awful. I don't have many wrinkles but like those that go to get those injections, I have plenty of stored fat that keeps my skin smooth. As I lose weight, I can start to see areas that are no longer very youthful looking.

My point is that until you get to the older ages, you don't have a clue about how you will feel and how it will affect you. My father was content to let himself get old and died at age 74. My mother fought aging almost since her birth and lived to be 87. She would still be going strong, I think, if Pulmonary Fibrosis hadn't set in on her. Very few of us spend our days constantly aware the we are on the downside of life and that there are a lot fewer days left then we have already lived. However, we are all conscious of it and deal with it in different ways. I'm sure that since he is the age he is, he is probably more aware of it then even I am and as such is always looking for ways to prove to himself that he still can keep up with the youngun's. For the most part that is a good thing, it does serve to give people a much needed motivation to continue for as long as possible. I'm not saying that anyone should try and stop us from climbing up on roofs nor should they encourage it. Just understand why it is happening and understand that someday you will be there and then it will become clear.

Hahaaa...!!! I honestly didn't even think about it 'til I saw your response...musta' been subconscious...!

And, thanks for your reasoned and thoughtful input. It is much appreciated.
I love my folks very much, and want to show them the respect they deserve, while at the same time preparing for the inevitable.

 

[donaldtoo]

Yea I can take one look at an inpatient and know if I'm going to be putting them on bipap/ cpap for the night. Losing weight is the best solution for a grown up. My son at the age of six had his adenoids and tonsils taken out to clear his airway because he was having the problems that you described your DW's coworker having. Once he had his airway cleared he was better. Sometimes it's external other times internal.
I agree with @MinnieM123 about the ENT doctor. In my opinion, only RTs, ENTs, and Pulmonologists are people I would trust in helping patients with these issues. I've seen too many family doctors and nurses give dangerous advice to patients when it comes to respiratory or sleep issues. A lot of times I see these patients in the ER. I dont claim to know much about the other body systems, but i eat and sleep cardiopulmonary. Just my educated opinion.

Yep, losing weight has always solved the problem for me.

 

[donaldtoo]

Very cute! Reminds me of a Christmas wrapping paper design for children, from many years ago.

Edit: I just read Jennifer's response and I think it's hilarious that we both had the same response to this design! Too funny !!!

It is, indeed, wrapping paper.
I found this one, as well. Check out that price...!

 

[MinnieM123]

TCM is showing a bunch of old things from the Disney archives. Right now, the TCM host is interviewing a Disney Imagineer, Gary Landrum. I've already watched some old cartoons (incredible artwork, animation), and TCM is supposed to show more Disney classics tonight. Now, they are starting to show Walt Disney in the Disneyland story, 1954. Looks interesting!

 

[MinnieM123]

And Christmas Eve and Day is supposed to be 60.

 

[Gabe1]

And Christmas Eve and Day is supposed to be 60.

Threatening snow, ice mix here for Christmas Eve. Hope not. Praying it is media hype.

 

[Gabe1]

TCM is showing a bunch of old things from the Disney archives. Right now, the TCM host is interviewing a Disney Imagineer, Gary Landrum. I've already watched some old cartoons (incredible artwork, animation), and TCM is supposed to show more Disney classics tonight. Now, they are starting to show Walt Disney in the Disneyland story, 1954. Looks interesting!

Never heard of TCM but found it. Song of South clips, wow.

 

[Gabe1]

Maybe we should switch venues.