AVATAR land construction progress

[GoofGoof]

That is not always practical or possible.

I agree. Even with Mine Train it was a late addition and made some sense. Each section of FLE represented a different movie and slightly different theme.

In this case, it makes no sense. Avatarland should have one continuous environment (like Carsland).

 

[Master Yoda]

They have about 2 years of construction left to go, right? If it's not possible for them to do it in that amount of time in an area of the park with absolutely no guests walking around unlike NFL then Disney really does have problems.

So I am assuming that you have access to all of the site conditions, plans, structural engineering, civil engineering, landscaping, construction time tables, contractors schedules, contractor availability, inspection schedules, financial outlay timetables, weather condition estimates, material availability and third party mechanical production time tables.

That is after all what you would need for you to have an educated opinion on when Pandora should be completed. I would hate to think that you would be making such a statement without having all the data that would tell you when such a project should be completed.

 

[twebber55]

So I am assuming that you have access to all of the site conditions, plans, structural engineering, civil engineering, landscaping, construction time tables, contractors schedules, contractor availability, inspection schedules, financial outlay timetables, weather condition estimates, material availability and third party mechanical production time tables.

That is after all what you would need for you to have an educated opinion on when Pandora should be completed. I would hate to think that you would be making such a statement without having all the data that would tell you when such a project should be completed.

believe it or not i do have access to all those things

 

[sshindel]

So I am assuming that you have access to all of the site conditions, plans, structural engineering, civil engineering, landscaping, construction time tables, contractors schedules, contractor availability, inspection schedules, financial outlay timetables, weather condition estimates, material availability and third party mechanical production time tables.

That is after all what you would need for you to have an educated opinion on when Pandora should be completed. I would hate to think that you would be making such a statement without having all the data that would tell you when such a project should be completed.

But, when I build a house and a tower with my Lego bricks, I don't need any of that. And we all know that building a theme park land is just a very scaled up version of building with Legos.

 

[Mike S]

So I am assuming that you have access to all of the site conditions, plans, structural engineering, civil engineering, landscaping, construction time tables, contractors schedules, contractor availability, inspection schedules, financial outlay timetables, weather condition estimates, material availability and third party mechanical production time tables.

That is after all what you would need for you to have an educated opinion on when Pandora should be completed. I would hate to think that you would be making such a statement without having all the data that would tell you when such a project should be completed.

I'm basing my thoughts on how other recent projects of this scale were done. Cars Land and London/Diagon Alley mostly. In both cases the whole land opened together so excuse me if it seems a little strange that one of Pandora's major attractions for some odd reason possibly isn't opening with the rest of the land in 2017 (where my 2 years of construction comment comes from). It seems that they have plenty of time to have it all open when you look at the construction timeframe for both Cars Land and Diagon Alley which both took somewhere over two years if my memory is correct.

 

[Master Yoda]

I'm basing my thoughts on how other recent projects of this scale were done. Cars Land and London/Diagon Alley mostly. In both cases the whole land opened together so excuse me if it seems a little strange that one of Pandora's major attractions for some odd reason possibly isn't opening with the rest of the land in 2017 (where my 2 years of construction comment comes from). It seems that they have plenty of time to have it all open when you look at the construction timeframe for both Cars Land and Diagon Alley which both took somewhere over two years if my memory is correct.

What happens with other projects is largely irrelevant especially at this scale.

I have see multiple occasions of identical structures being built by the same builder, in the same area and one takes twice as long to complete as the other for one reason or another. And these are just simple 4/3-2000 square foot single family homes.

In this particular case you have entirely different projects going up in entirely different locations, built by entirely different crews. We have gone past comparing apples to oranges. We are now in comparing apples to cylinder heads for a 63 Corvette territory.

 

[GoofGoof]

What happens with other projects is largely irrelevant especially at this scale.

100% agreed. The basis of assuming a phased opening is FLE and other past projects. This project is unique and has its own set of variables.

 

[Master Yoda]

100% agreed. The basis of assuming a phased opening is FLE and other past projects. This project is unique and has its own set of variables.

Assuming a phased opening is simply following Disney's trend. I can all but guarantee you that some elements of this project will be ready for guests before others. It is true of pretty much every large scale construction project.

I would be tickled pink if they opened this area fully intact and complete, but Disney has a long track record of doing exactly the opposite. I will stick with the trend and then hope to be proven wrong.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Avatar really lends itself to a grand reveal for people though. Opening it in phases seems ill conceived.

 

[GoofGoof]

My opinion is if the boat ride doesn't open around the same time (same year) as the rest of the land it's never coming.

I could see the land soft opening with one of the rides not fully functioning or some finishing touches not done on shops, restaurants or other areas. I don't really see a phased approach stretching over multiple years being very successful.

 

[twebber55]

My opinion is if the boat ride doesn't open around the same time (same year) as the rest of the land it's never coming.

I could see the land soft opening with one of the rides not fully functioning or some finishing touches not done on shops, restaurants or other areas. I don't really see a phased approach stretching over multiple years being very successful.

they re already building it right?

 

[twebber55]

to be honest there's not much to the land to open in phases...looks like 2 rides, 1 restaurant, and merchandise place

 

[FLFQTR]

Appreciate the updates. Do you foresee a staggered opening with the boat ride opening after the simulator?

its the holidays so things tend to be slower this time of the year.

 

[GoofGoof]

they re already building it right?

No clue. Right now there's no way to tell. Even if the foundation for the show building or the building itself is built there's no guarantee the ride ever opens. I think one of the rumors was the outside of what would be the boat ride would be mostly complete, but the inside and ride system would be installed as part of phase 2. Wouldn't be the first time a show building went unused.

That being said, I really seriously doubt that will happen. My gut says the whole land will open at the same time like Car's Land and not one piece at a time like FLE.

 

[flyerjab]

Took the bus into DAK today. There are definitely two sections of vertical something-or-other going up. You can clearly see it.

 

[Mike S]

Took the bus into DAK today. There are definitely two sections of vertical something-or-other going up. You can clearly see it.

I only saw cranes but then again I drove in so I wasn't close. Did you get a picture?

 

[flyerjab]

I only saw cranes but then again I drove in so I wasn't close. Did you get a picture?

Unfortunately I did not. The bus was crazy full, as was the park. But there were 2 distinct structures a fair distance apart.

 

[twebber55]

tons of new aerials at themeparx.com
paging @Tom, @Master Yoda , and @danlb_2000

 

[twebber55]

Took the bus into DAK today. There are definitely two sections of vertical something-or-other going up. You can clearly see it.

any idea where in the area

 

[doctornick]

to be honest there's not much to the land to open in phases...looks like 2 rides, 1 restaurant, and merchandise place

I feel like the possibility of an "animal trail" walk through has at least been hinted/rumored as a possible part of the land.