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I'd settle for ANY Gothel!
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Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion
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Disney Analyst
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You right. A glimpse of Gothel would be better than this lack of her.
mickEblu
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Agreed. I like how it starts outdoors. Gets off to a really nice start with the tower there.
I also think Frozen needed more beats like the wolves and Marshmallow. The Magic/ adventure stuff. Less scene by scene book report with small character interactions. Itโs a ride. Not a soap opera or Broadway.
Animaniac93-98
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Have Gothel at the end of the ride, heckling people.
"Oh...wasn't that just sweet...Rapunzel and Flynn are so adorable...NOW GET OFF THE RIDE, Mummy has to take care of her little flower next..."
"Did you see that beautiful young maiden over there? Oh, that's just my reflection in the river! lol Yes, keep that boat moving so I can get a second look..."
ParkPeeker
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They couldโve easily added a hooded gothel figure in the foreground of the snugly duckling scene looking for rapunzel. But seeing as this isnโt a book report and it ends at the lights, they were probably like, it makes no sense letโs just make it about her best day ever, which ends at the lights in the movie when she fulfills that dream.
ParkPeeker
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3 Elsas, 
3 gothels 
WaltWiz1901
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P.S. one of those attractions was only a splash pad, and most of the rides you're stacking these up against were nowhere near the same level (but did help add more capacity where it was sorely needed)...not really a fair comparison
There is a whole one minute between the boat leaving the loading station and reaching the Flynn animatronic where there is nothing to see other than bush and a few laterns with the Tower still a distance away. They could have easily added a Mother Gothel animatronic or statue near those bushes strolling away from the tower after a visit to Rapunzel thinking all is well with her.
WaltWiz1901
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Hmm, now there's an idea for your next castle park buildout, whatever it may be...
SplashJacket
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I donโt think it needs Gothel, imho. Similar to how a Frozen ride doesnโt need Hans (whoโs not a traditional villain, but a twist villain), a Tangled ride doesnโt need Mother Gothel, who while is a more obvious villain, her villainry comes from gaslighting and entrapment, which isnโt as conveyable in a dark ride as a monster or men with pointy teeth.
Usula, on the other hand, thereโs no mistaking that sheโs a villain just from her design (same with Hades, Chernabog, etc.)
I also think if they added a single more scene it would be more in the E-D range (which maybe they shouldโve done because if thatโs all it required).
Now another 3 or 4 scenes wouldโve made it a headliner.
If they added a built snuggly duckling scene after seeing the exterior:
Extra scene 1: I have a dream snuggly duckking
Extra scene 1.5: guards arrive in snuggly duckling
Extra scene 2 secret door opens revealing a drop
Extra scene 2.5: tunnel with Flynn carrying a torch and Rapunzel looking look with royal guard footsteps in distance
Extra scene 3: Boat reaches a dead end and water is projected rising around Flynn and Rapunzel until the torch goes and boat gets lifted in darkness in a vertical rise-style lift
Extra scene 3.5: a different rapunzel figureโs hair begins glowing, and a Flynn animatronic stabs a rock wall with a causing the rocks to collapse, allowing the boat to proceed forward
Genuinely, I think thatโs all the ride needed to be the best ride in the world, which isnโt really a whole lot considering this ride was likely designed as a D-ticket.
SweetDuffy101
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Pure speculation, But do we think an IP from pocahontas or MOANA franchise be fitting to replace Splash Mountain.
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ThemeParkTraveller
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I suggested Pocahontas as a possible choice previously. It has a few good songs and fits with the existing aesthetics of Critter Country. Moana seems more likely to go into TDS than TDL.
Consumer
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Agreed. The Stabbington Brothers would work well as the villains of this ride.
tanc
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I wish OLC would consider making Splash a ride for duffy, at least that would be a worthy replacement to me. It kind of blows my mind Duffy doesn't have really any attractions centered around him despite his popularity.
Also think if Tokyo has to retheme Critter Country & Splash, Duffy & Friends makes the most sense. They have the benefit of being highly popular yet no pre-existing film, allowing Imagineers complete freedom to do whatever they like. The fact the six animal friends have totally different hobbies makes for variety in scenery too throughout Splash.
Brer Oswald
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No. Not even slightly.
Regardless, the speculation is moot. Disney wants Tiana and OLC wants it to remain as is. I suspect the โcompromiseโ that will be reached will be Disney footing most of, if not all, of the bill to convert the land into something that fits within the world of PatF.
TragicMike
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Pocahontas is dated and thereโs no way Disney is going to touch that IP ever again. Notice how itโs the only film from the Disney Renaissance that has absolutely zero movement towards a live action remake.